The Leonor Cipriano case reviewed... AGAIN!

[Carana]

Her uncle made a taped confession to the police, which was shown in court, in which he described how he, & his sister, had laid into that poor defenceless 8 year old child.

Course, he was only pulling their legs weren't he.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id176.html

It was a taped "reconstruction", involving a demonstration of how one would chop up a body, using a doll. The chopped up doll didn't even fit properly in the small fridge / freezer where it was supposed to have been stuffed.

They lived in a small house, with several children and adults... and no one noticed that there was a chopped up body in it when they opened it to get their breakfast?

Leandro had no idea when his saw disappeared and he said that all the kitchen knives were small ones.
 

[misty]

They invented Joao's taped confession?

CGI, maybe, I suppose it's possible.

It's a wonder he didn't challenge it in court really, given that he's the innocent uncle of a missing child.

Must have been the promise of a lovely dinner on Christmas day.

[Carana]

They invented Joao's taped confession?

CGI, maybe, I suppose it's possible.

It's a wonder he didn't challenge it in court really, given that he's the innocent uncle of a missing child.

He couldn't as the lawyers had advised both not to take the stand, assuming that the case would be thrown out due to a total lack of credible evidence. Where the lawyers screwed up was they seemingly hadn't realised that the "reconstruction" was admissible evidence - presented on the last day of this rather short trial.

[Anna]

It was a taped "reconstruction", involving a demonstration of how one would chop up a body, using a doll. The chopped up doll didn't even fit properly in the small fridge / freezer where it was supposed to have been stuffed.

They lived in a small house, with several children and adults... and no one noticed that there was a chopped up body in it when they opened it to get their breakfast?

Leandro had no idea when his saw disappeared and he said that all the kitchen knives were small ones.

Leandro Apparently said that in court, but has since, said in press articles that he had never owned a saw.

[Eleanor]

When are they supposed to have cut up the body and put it in the fridge.  Or did Leonor do that while Jaoa was out looking for Leandro?

[Carana]

Must have been the promise of a lovely dinner on Christmas day.

You mean with a gift of clothes that would have been twice his size and too short?

[Eleanor]

Must have been the promise of a lovely dinner on Christmas day.

Or a smack round the head more like.

[Carana]

Leandro Apparently said that in court, but has since, said in press articles that he had never owned a saw.

Hmmm. That's not my recollection. I think he did have one at some point, but simply had no idea when it disappeared. We'd need to check the original versions of articles on that point.

[Anna]

When are they supposed to have cut up the body and put it in the fridge.  Or did Leonor do that while Jaoa was out looking for Leandro?

Apparently she was too squeamish to joint a chicken, according to Leandro. No the court believe it was done at 9.30??????? I believe. Did they even check the statements?

[Wonderfulspam]

It was a taped "reconstruction", involving a demonstration of how one would chop up a body, using a doll. The chopped up doll didn't even fit properly in the small fridge / freezer where it was supposed to have been stuffed.

They lived in a small house, with several children and adults... and no one noticed that there was a chopped up body in it when they opened it to get their breakfast?

Leandro had no idea when his saw disappeared and he said that all the kitchen knives were small ones.

Are you suggesting Joao didn't confess?

[Eleanor]

Apparently she was too squeamish to joint a chicken, according to Leandro. No the court believe it was done at 9.30??????? I believe. Did they even check the statements?

And there was me thinking they fed it to the pigs or stuffed it in a car or buried up a mountain.  But The PJ certainly covered all angles.  So take your pick, Folks

[Carana]

Are you suggesting Joao didn't confess?

Spam, how would you cut up a turkey? Here's a doll.

Thanks for that demonstration.

[Eleanor]

Are you suggesting Joao didn't confess?

So how come he didn't know where the body was?

[Wonderfulspam]

Spam, how would you cut up a turkey? Here's a doll.

Thanks for that demonstration.

Course, in the taped confession, João Cipriano said he and his sister hit the turkey, which then banged it's head against a wall before collapsing, unconscious, onto the floor. 

[Wonderfulspam]

So how come he didn't know where the body was?

What comes first is, why confess ,if you're the innocent uncle/mother of an abducted child?

It's because they dunnit, it's that simple.