Why have the McCanns never taken part in an actual organised search for Madeleine?

[Angelo222]

Why do you find my suggestion that they start a proper search in and around Praia da Luz funny Anne?   A search process always begins at the last place the child was seen.  There are loads of places around the village where a child could have been concealed.

Searching involves many disciplines, it is not as Eleanor suggests all to do with a spade.  Her facetious comment just underlines the frivolity and contempt with which McCann supporters still hold this suggestion.  Remarkable really for people who claim that Mr Amaral hindered the search when all along the McCanns couldn't even be bothered getting off their backsides and personally doing some searching.

[AnneGuedes]

Why do you find my suggestion that they start a proper search in and around Praia da Luz funny Anne?   A search process always begins at the last place the child was seen.

Sorry, Angelo, what I found funny was the "slow" detail !
Dave Edgar suggested it shyly because all sorts of dangers were to be expected in a lawless region.

[John]

Sorry, Angelo, what I found funny was the "slow" detail !
Dave Edgar suggested it shyly because all sorts of dangers were to be expected in a lawless region.

Good point Anne, former Ulster detective Edgar did suggest that Madeleine could be held in some sort of a cell in the surrounding area.  Where the heck did he get the lawless label from?  Isn't the PdL area supposed to be one of the friendliest areas in the Algarve?

Angelo mentions the multiple disciplines involved in searching for a missing child.  Indeed, one of the most important is to gain the trust and respect of the locals.  This is probably where the SY investigation will fail, police end up antagonising the local population.

If you can carry the locals with you, you end up tapping into a huge resource of who's who and a grapevine of connections which the police will never unravel.  We have all heard why Robert Murat's mother set up her mobile information desk.  She knew only too well that the people would not confide in the police. 

[AnneGuedes]

one of the most important is to gain the trust and respect of the locals.  This is probably where the SY investigation will fail, police end up antagonising the local population.

Yes, this is delicate and takes time. I'm sure SY would understand that if this was at stake. But if they pretend to have access to bank accounts and private data, it's more tricky. Remember the Appeal Court refusing the MP access to the McCann SMS ?

[Silkywhiskers]

Yes the non-existent "search".

Which started that evening and continued right through to this day, when we know any actual "searching" was stopped a long time ago when Edgar produced that inconvenient efit and was threatened with legal action for his trouble.

As far as I'm concerned, every penny milked from "the Fund" is fraudulently acquired.

[Mr Gray]

Yes the non-existent "search".

Which started that evening and continued right through to this day, when we know any actual "searching" was stopped a long time ago when Edgar produced that inconvenient efit and was threatened with legal action for his trouble.

As far as I'm concerned, every penny milked from "the Fund" is fraudulently acquired.

Well you have got everything else wrong so may as well keep on going

[Mr Gray]

Let's take the 'nobody was searching' statement in the book.

The book was supposed to be a factual account of what happened.

Facts need to be checked.

It was widely reported in the aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance that local people and holidaymakers searched overnight and on subsequent days, both on news reports and in the media in general.

As far as I know the lie that only the Mccanns were searching has not been removed from the book, which was clearly a ploy to gain sympathy for the parents.

As to Amaral, he got the D.N.A. evidence wrong, no doubt about it, as it was inconclusive.

As to lying, have you ever met a person who has never lied in their lives ?

So when you make the claim it says in the book nobody was searching you are actually telling  a lie

[Estuarine]

Sorry, Angelo, what I found funny was the "slow" detail !
Dave Edgar suggested it shyly because all sorts of dangers were to be expected in a lawless region.

Unfortunately Anne the British believe that lawlessness, bribery, corruption and all sorts of nefarious goings on start once one is beyond the soggy bit at Dover ;)

[Mr Gray]

Unfortunately Anne the British believe that lawlessness, bribery, corruption and all sorts of nefarious goings on start once one is beyond the soggy bit at Dover ;)

What makes you think you  can criticise the entire  british people..that's an extremely racist and xenophobic comment...there again only a fool would make such a generalisation

[Silkywhiskers]

What makes you think you  can criticise the entire  british people..that's an extremely racist and xenophobic comment...there again only a fool would make such a generalisation

Like the entire PJ are written off as incompetent liars?

[Sherlock Holmes]

And if SY make significant progress on the case whilst the libel trial is in progress, how will the McCanns be able to argue that the search has been impeded?

(Perhaps this explains the lack of official statements at the moment from SY / TM? ).

And if SY don't make any progress, how will the McCanns be able to argue that it was Amaral who impeded the search when SY and the British taxpayer invested such a great deal and still failed to find anything?

All very complicated!

[John]

So when you make the claim it says in the book nobody was searching you are actually telling  a lie

Not at all, he was spot on actually...ergo the lie...

The most striking and horrific thing about all this was that we were completely alone. Nobody else, it seemed, was out looking for Madeleine. Just us, her parents.  We must have been out for at least an hour before returning to David and Fiona’s apartment.

"We were completely alone. Nobody else, it seemed, was out looking for Madeleine."

And she adds just for good measure that they were out a whole hour!  One whole hours searching in nearly 7 years.  Must be a record!

[Estuarine]

Like the entire PJ are written off as incompetent liars?

Which can of course be construed as racist and xenophobic. I don't understand how one Brit making comments about other Brits is. But there you go 

[stephen25000]

This says it all so well.

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[John]

UNBELIEVABLE

Kate says they are working really hard trying to get Madeleine back but not by physically searching?