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Offline Luz

Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2013, 12:21:12 PM »
Yep, there have been seven at 2 year intervals + one that failed just under 5 months before Madeleine was taken .... and that was only 18 miles (ish) away from PdL

They all fell in the north of Porto region, or in the PdL region .  That is 300 miles apart, but each group is quite tiny.

In the pdl region just before Madeleine
... a failed abduction under 5 months before Madeleine was taken, of a pretty little 5 3 year old,  blond haired girl called Carolina Santos was walked off in Silves
And that was just 18 miles away.  Think about it!


2 years 4 months prior to Carolina,  a fair haired pretty little seven year old girl, Joana Cipriano, was almost certainly taken from Figueira, just 7 miles away from PdL


So three pretty fair haired girls taken in a period of 2 years 8 months .  All within a distance of 18 miles from PDL


THINK ABOUT IT !  Please


Please note all my measurements are normally crow flies and taken from Google Earth.


Thanks for showing how biased you are.

There was only one abduction and killing of a british girl, aged nine, by a family friend, nine years prior to the disappearance of Madeleine.

Joana Cipriano was murdered.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2013, 12:25:31 PM »

Thanks for showing how biased you are.

There was only one abduction and killing of a british girl, aged nine, by a family friend, nine years prior to the disappearance of Madeleine.

Joana Cipriano was murdered.
And that young British girl wasn't abducted from bed.. but from the public space.

Benita

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Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2013, 04:03:14 PM »
He was released in 2002

"It is claimed that Cook was hung from an upstairs window by his feet, that his feet were beaten until he could not stand, that he was tied to a chair and beaten, that he was deprived of sleep and that a revolver was forced into his mouth and the trigger pulled in a mock execution."
The PJ also claimed Cook had a record as a paedophile, Spink went on. This, too, was "entirely bogus'. The trial judge had asked a PJ witness how he knew this: "The officer replied that someone, unnamed, had told him. The judge accepted that so-called 'evidence' as clear and unequivocal."
It emerged at the trial that while there was no forensic link between Rachel or her clothes and Cook's car, blood had been found under her fingernails - presumably that of her attacker. But when Cook's lawyers tried to obtain it to test it for DNA, they were told the samples had been "lost".


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thanks for this ...so the pj tortured him ..wonder how many other people they tortured  >@@(*&)...maybe they should all come forward and blow the pj wide open ...

Offline Montclair

Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2013, 04:16:35 PM »
He was released in 2002

"It is claimed that Cook was hung from an upstairs window by his feet, that his feet were beaten until he could not stand, that he was tied to a chair and beaten, that he was deprived of sleep and that a revolver was forced into his mouth and the trigger pulled in a mock execution."
The PJ also claimed Cook had a record as a paedophile, Spink went on. This, too, was "entirely bogus'. The trial judge had asked a PJ witness how he knew this: "The officer replied that someone, unnamed, had told him. The judge accepted that so-called 'evidence' as clear and unequivocal."
It emerged at the trial that while there was no forensic link between Rachel or her clothes and Cook's car, blood had been found under her fingernails - presumably that of her attacker. But when Cook's lawyers tried to obtain it to test it for DNA, they were told the samples had been "lost".


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-560696/Madeleine-The-damning-case-police-Britains-investigative-reporter.html#ixzz2jQ7abvKm
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Concerning the part of the article, which contains many falsehoods, about Michael Cook, it is incorrect when the author says that confessions are the most important part of evidence. During the dictatorship, they were but now, as I have already stated several times on this forum, only confessions made in front of the judge during the trial are considered valid. I don't believe that the man was taken to the court with soiled clothing, the judge would have noticed right away and his lawyer would have made a complaint. This man, IMO, is just another person who committed a crime and wants everyone to believe that he has been a victim of a miscarriage of justice.

Offline Kazcutt

Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2013, 04:24:51 PM »
Concerning the part of the article, which contains many falsehoods, about Michael Cook, it is incorrect when the author says that confessions are the most important part of evidence. During the dictatorship, they were but now, as I have already stated several times on this forum, only confessions made in front of the judge during the trial are considered valid. I don't believe that the man was taken to the court with soiled clothing, the judge would have noticed right away and his lawyer would have made a complaint. This man, IMO, is just another person who committed a crime and wants everyone to believe that he has been a victim of a miscarriage of justice.

There was no evidence at all blood from whoever  under Rachel's nails .the wrong tyre tracks etc


Offline Kazcutt

Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2013, 04:34:15 PM »
Concerning the part of the article, which contains many falsehoods, about Michael Cook, it is incorrect when the author says that confessions are the most important part of evidence. During the dictatorship, they were but now, as I have already stated several times on this forum, only confessions made in front of the judge during the trial are considered valid. I don't believe that the man was taken to the court with soiled clothing, the judge would have noticed right away and his lawyer would have made a complaint. This man, IMO, is just another person who committed a crime and wants everyone to believe that he has been a victim of a miscarriage of justice.


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Redblossom

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Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2013, 06:19:36 PM »
Re the  Michael Cook story, I fail to see how it connects to the Madeleine case.....and why people bring it up at all over and above any other case

I came across this piece which makes interesting reading for anyone interested....how much is true or false, no idea

http://www.nickdavies.net/1993/08/01/kidnap-murder-and-justice-in-the-algarve/

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Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2013, 06:32:05 PM »
There was no evidence at all blood from whoever  under Rachel's nails .the wrong tyre tracks etc

Yes and also that untimely accident.

Cook's lawyers were said to be pushing for the release of a television video report which allegedly showed police beating Cook. Those lawyers were involved in a tragic accident involving a front tyre blow-out which, incidentally, it is claimed has never been properly investigated by the police. In that untimely accident, Dr. da Silva was killed and Dr. Coelho was severely injured.
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Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2013, 07:08:24 PM »
Re the  Michael Cook story, I fail to see how it connects to the Madeleine case.....and why people bring it up at all over and above any other case

I came across this piece which makes interesting reading for anyone interested....how much is true or false, no idea

http://www.nickdavies.net/1993/08/01/kidnap-murder-and-justice-in-the-algarve/

I read that piece earlier. If it's true, it's worrying.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2013, 08:10:06 PM »
Nick Davies was responsible for uncovering the News of the World phone hacking affair for the Guardian concerning Milly Dowler.

Redblossom

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Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2013, 08:28:57 PM »
Nick Davies was responsible for uncovering the News of the World phone hacking affair for the Guardian concerning Milly Dowler.

and look where  its got coulson and  brookes today!Not looking good.

Miscarriages happenin many many countries....just because they may have  done in Portugal in the past doesnt necessarily mean as many reckon the mccanns were being fitted up!

Going back to the OP,if anyone wants to do a search on the word abductions and the user ID Sadie, you will find a range of posts regarding  these in Portugal....alledgedly from 1991 to 2007...I found one post when looking through detailing names,  then pc crashed, before I could copy it, and I couldnt be bothered to  trawl through again......


Offline Montclair

Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2013, 09:52:48 AM »
What's going on here?

stephen25000

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Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
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Cariad

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Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2013, 09:54:42 AM »
What's going on here?

spamming.

This was going on last night too. It's really very annoying.

Offline Luz

Re: Has there been any other abductions on the Algarve?
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2013, 10:01:12 AM »
It's called diversion tactics.