Has the McCann's Actions Turned a Supportive Public Against Them ?

[faithlilly]

TomWinnifrith.com

CRIMEWATCH, KATE & GERRY MCCANN, MADDY, MI5

Kate & Gerry McCann – my sympathy is diminishing rapidly

Sunday 3 November 2013

- Tom Winnifrith

I have written before about the McCann parents. Losing a child must be an unimaginable horror but my sympathy was, even two weeks ago, greatly diminished by the way they had used funds raised to help in the search to silence their critics with legal threats and action and by their apparent love of being on TV and more. As of this week I am afraid that my sympathy almost disappeared.

The Crimewatch special of ten days ago claimed to have big new evidence. I am not sure that it did but I was prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt. Whatever my private views on the chances of finding Maddy alive those who loved her must be allowed to cling to hope.

However it has since emerged that the new evidence actually emerged five years ago thanks to a report compiled by ex MI5 officers paid for by the Mccann’s foundation funded by members of the public (actually it is a limited company which is odd in itself) But the report was also critical of the McCann parents and their friends and so foundation money was used to suppress it with the threat of legal action. Is that really what Maddy well-wishers would have wanted?

It has only now emerged, with the trail five years colder, because the Old Bill have forced it into the public domain. They have done this to justify the millions of quid of public money being spent on this new enquiry, something that has only taken place because of lobbying by Kate & Gerry.

So when Kate McCann blubbers on our TV screens asking for us to help use this NEW evidence I cannot say that I am blubbering with her.

The affaire McCann has become an unpleasant and costly circus. It is time to draw a line.
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[BigFatBlonde]

I'm sure the "pro" posters will state that it isn't the case and the "[ censored word]" will claim the opposite.

As an neutral I can only say that the people who I have discussed the case with have all been rather negative toward the family. It is an emotive issue, on the one hand your heart goes out to the child and the parents. But on the other their behaviour just doesn't do them any favours at all.

If you want to be in the public eye, and the McCanns certainly want that, then you need to have good PR and they just don't - despite allegedly spending a fair few quid on it.

N

[Mr Gray]

I'm sure the "pro" posters will state that it isn't the case and the "[ censored word]" will claim the opposite.

As an neutral I can only say that the people who I have discussed the case with have all been rather negative toward the family. It is an emotive issue, on the one hand your heart goes out to the child and the parents. But on the other their behaviour just doesn't do them any favours at all.

If you want to be in the public eye, and the McCanns certainly want that, then you need to have good PR and they just don't - despite allegedly spending a fair few quid on it.

N

 I don't find your posts neutral...you are often criticising the McCanns and I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours in support of them

[Redblossom]

TomWinnifrith.com

CRIMEWATCH, KATE & GERRY MCCANN, MADDY, MI5

Kate & Gerry McCann – my sympathy is diminishing rapidly

Sunday 3 November 2013

- Tom Winnifrith

I have written before about the McCann parents. Losing a child must be an unimaginable horror but my sympathy was, even two weeks ago, greatly diminished by the way they had used funds raised to help in the search to silence their critics with legal threats and action and by their apparent love of being on TV and more. As of this week I am afraid that my sympathy almost disappeared.

The Crimewatch special of ten days ago claimed to have big new evidence. I am not sure that it did but I was prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt. Whatever my private views on the chances of finding Maddy alive those who loved her must be allowed to cling to hope.

However it has since emerged that the new evidence actually emerged five years ago thanks to a report compiled by ex MI5 officers paid for by the Mccann’s foundation funded by members of the public (actually it is a limited company which is odd in itself) But the report was also critical of the McCann parents and their friends and so foundation money was used to suppress it with the threat of legal action. Is that really what Maddy well-wishers would have wanted?

It has only now emerged, with the trail five years colder, because the Old Bill have forced it into the public domain. They have done this to justify the millions of quid of public money being spent on this new enquiry, something that has only taken place because of lobbying by Kate & Gerry.

So when Kate McCann blubbers on our TV screens asking for us to help use this NEW evidence I cannot say that I am blubbering with her.

The affaire McCann has become an unpleasant and costly circus. It is time to draw a line.
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Im sure he speaks for many on that issue and other related ones....for sure

[faithlilly]

I don't find your posts neutral...you are often criticising the McCanns and I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours in support of them

It would be interesting if, for once, you addressed the points in the OP and didn't simply resort to haranguing other members Dave.

[AnneGuedes]

If you want to be in the public eye, and the McCanns certainly want that, then you need to have good PR and they just don't - despite allegedly spending a fair few quid on it.

N

Absolutely, how could these intelligent people let themselves be so badly advised ?

[BigFatBlonde]

I don't find your posts neutral...you are often criticising the McCanns and I don't think I've ever seen a post of yours in support of them

how you find my posts is of no interest to me and even less to the other members of the forum. IF you must spout off do it in pm rather than continually pollute threads.

N

[Mr Gray]

how you find my posts is of no interest to me and even less to the other members of the forum. IF you must spout off do it in pm rather than continually pollute threads.

N

I will post how and whenever I like within forum rules

[Mr Gray]

I'm basically neutral...just listen to the evidence and am willing to go where ever it leads.
I think the Mccanns have gained a lot more support over the last few weeks due to the positive stories in the press re new suspects

[stephen25000]

TomWinnifrith.com

CRIMEWATCH, KATE & GERRY MCCANN, MADDY, MI5

Kate & Gerry McCann – my sympathy is diminishing rapidly

Sunday 3 November 2013

- Tom Winnifrith

I have written before about the McCann parents. Losing a child must be an unimaginable horror but my sympathy was, even two weeks ago, greatly diminished by the way they had used funds raised to help in the search to silence their critics with legal threats and action and by their apparent love of being on TV and more. As of this week I am afraid that my sympathy almost disappeared.

The Crimewatch special of ten days ago claimed to have big new evidence. I am not sure that it did but I was prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt. Whatever my private views on the chances of finding Maddy alive those who loved her must be allowed to cling to hope.

However it has since emerged that the new evidence actually emerged five years ago thanks to a report compiled by ex MI5 officers paid for by the Mccann’s foundation funded by members of the public (actually it is a limited company which is odd in itself) But the report was also critical of the McCann parents and their friends and so foundation money was used to suppress it with the threat of legal action. Is that really what Maddy well-wishers would have wanted?

It has only now emerged, with the trail five years colder, because the Old Bill have forced it into the public domain. They have done this to justify the millions of quid of public money being spent on this new enquiry, something that has only taken place because of lobbying by Kate & Gerry.

So when Kate McCann blubbers on our TV screens asking for us to help use this NEW evidence I cannot say that I am blubbering with her.

The affaire McCann has become an unpleasant and costly circus. It is time to draw a line.
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Excellent article.


 

[Angelo222]

I'm basically neutral...just listen to the evidence and am willing to go where ever it leads.
I think the Mccanns have gained a lot more support over the last few weeks due to the positive stories in the press re new suspects

...and lost twice as many by refusing to answer why they suppressed the e-fits.

[Angelo222]

Be under no illusion, there are details about what happened the night Maddie was abducted which are not as they might at first appear.  There was a fabrication but it wasn't the one Mr Amaral came up with.

[Aiofe]

Be under no illusion, there are details about what happened the night Maddie was abducted which are not as they might at first appear.  There was a fabrication but it wasn't the one Mr Amaral came up with.

And you 'know' this how? It may be your belief, but you have insufficient evidence to support it.

[Aiofe]

It is very difficult to assess exactly what the McCann's position is in the public eye.

I have noticed that even within the Daily Mail readership, there seems to be more support than I previously thought. Most replies to McCann articles were anti-McCann, but this assesses determination to post over real analysis of beliefs. Perhaps the [ censored word] are more angry, vindictive and blaming than the pros are relaxed, excusing and forgiving, meaning that [ censored word] are more likely to post. We cannot know.

But since the Mail altered its approve/disapprove voting system where it now takes just a button press to vote, most 'pro' posts have a good majority of green thumbs up whereas most 'anti' posts have a majority of red thumbs down.

Previously they only listed the reds minus the greens as a single total, but now you can see that some posts have many votes in favour of the McCanns. Given that the Anti sites (who have much larger memberships than any pro site) regularly have threads to 'get the vote out' on Mail and other threads, I tend to believe that there is a solid majority of "Very pro, mildly Pro, generally forgiving and don't really cares" over the people who believe that the McCanns are culpable for anything more than rather doubtful childcare.

[Mr Gray]

Be under no illusion, there are details about what happened the night Maddie was abducted which are not as they might at first appear.  There was a fabrication but it wasn't the one Mr Amaral came up with.

It appears you are the one under illusion