Has the McCann's Actions Turned a Supportive Public Against Them ?

[Mr Gray]

I find that a bit offensive as my late husband and I had no secrets.

it will get a lot worse Tooty, I'm afraid..best of luck though

[Aiofe]

Freemasons by their very nature are a secretive society, whose foundations are well known.

What function do they serve which is of any value ?

and if I am not mistaken, their doctrine is to protect fellow members.  >@@(*&)

And....

[John]

Hi Stephen2500 I'm not being funny but my late husband's lodge did a hell of a lot for charity and they would not ever, ever cover up anything to do with children being harmed.

That's spot on TP.  The Free Masons are a charitable organisation who do a lot of good work on behalf of the impoverished and needy in society.

[sadie]

I was originally supportive of the McCanns. I wasn't even especially critical of their babysitting arrangements as it struck me as not that different from a baby listening service. Having said that, it appears they were not checking on the children as often as they said and they were also quite far away.

Hi j.rob

Welcome

Have you noit been keeping up to date?

It is now an accepred fact that the mccanns were only about 50 metres, crow flies,  from 5A.  This can be checked on Google Earth

Also about 75 metres walking.  For a fit person, that could easily be done in well under 20 seconds including the gate and patio door.


And why are you making this statement that it appears that they were not checking regularly.

They were visually checked every half hour (unhappily Matt saw the twins but seeing the foot of Madeleines bed looking OK, ,did not actually check Madeleine.

Additionally Matt listened at the bedroom window and all was quiet.  Hotels and places like Butlins used to do these half hourly listening checks as the norm.

So 4 checks in an hour and a half.  That's pretty good

[Wonderfulspam]

Hi j.rob

Welcome

Have you noit been keeping up to date?

It is now an accepred fact that the mccanns were only about 50 metres, crow flies,  from 5A.  This can be checked on Google Earth

Also about 75 metres walking.  For a fit person, that could easily be done in well under 20 seconds including the gate and patio door.


And why are you making this statement that it appears that they were not checking regularly.

They were visually checked every half hour (unhappily Matt saw the twins but seeing the foot of Madeleines bed looking OK, ,did not actually check Madeleine.

Additionally Matt listened at the bedroom window and all was quiet.  Hotels and places like Butlins used to do these half hourly listening checks as the norm.

So 4 checks in an hour and a half.  That's pretty good

"they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did"

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html

[faithlilly]

"they didn't check on them like they afterwards declared they did"

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html

It seems the Oldfield couple had no intention of doing a half hourly check at 10pm when Kate did hers. 

[pathfinder73]

That's because Matt Oldfield said Kate left at 9.50pm to do her check not 10pm.

[Lyall]

Also about 75 metres walking.  For a fit person, that could easily be done in well under 20 seconds including the gate and patio door.

>@@(*&) Well under 20 seconds? That's well over half the speed Bannister ran his mile at.

Spin, spin, spin Sadie.

[Lyall]

I know Zola Budd used to run barefoot but neither she or Bannister ran in flip flops

[Redblossom]

>@@(*&) Well under 20 seconds? That's well over half the speed Bannister ran his mile at.

Spin, spin, spin Sadie.

LOL

Well..I fail to see any relevance in how quick or slow someone got to the flat to check on their kids from the tapas bar if they were left out of sight and hearing for thirty minute stretches...before they did so..... a few seconds less or more.....matters not a jot
 >@@(*&)


Oh well tomorrows
 

[Lyall]

LOL

Well..I fail to see any relevance in how quick or slow someone got to the flat to check on their kids from the tapas bar if they were left out of sight and hearing for thirty minute stretches...before they did so..... a few seconds less or more.....matters not a jot
 >@@(*&)

True Red

[sadie]

>@@(*&) Well under 20 seconds? That's well over half the speed Bannister ran his mile at.

Spin, spin, spin Sadie.

Would you kindly take that back and apolopgise Lyall

It is your side that spins ... and twists facts.


http://uk.ask.com/question/100-meter-dash-world-record-holder


Who Is the World Record Holder in the 100 Meter Dash?
AnswerAs of January 2013 Usain Bolt is the world record holder in the 100 meter dash. He holds both a world and an Olympic record in the 100 meter dash. His fastest time was at the 2009 World Championships with a time of 9.58. At the 2012 Olympics his time was 9.63. Florence Griffith is the women's world record holder with a time of 10.49.

Those times are for 100 metres.  The distance from the restaurant to the patio doors is something like 75 metres.  Only 3/4 the distance and I have allowed twice the time for a much shorter distance.

So They would be running at just over a third the speed of the world record holders. 

Both Kate and Gerry are very fit if they run up to that trig point near tbe Rocha Negro.  Have you been?

I stand by my statement

Also about 75 metres walking.  For a fit person, that could easily be done in well under 20 seconds including the gate and patio door
An apology would be appreciated.

[Lyall]

You are mixing running and walking up in your calculations.

And your distance is an underestimate.

[CPN]

I just find the distance so irrelevant - they were out of sight and hearing, that was what mattered

[Mr Gray]

I just find the distance so irrelevant - they were out of sight and hearing, that was what mattered

OF course the distant is relevant... .thats why they weren't charged with neglect..50 yds or 5 miles may make no difference to you but it does to the authorities