Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012

[puglove]

Sure of it, Milly. He's backtracking like crazy. It really doesn't help JB's cause, to do what he's doing.

[John]

Well, it will get a few more people interested for a while. Hopefully they will read up and realise that Sheila showed no physical signs, and they can be confident that JB is in the right place. And hopefully they'll find Mike's forum, and suss out the calibre of his supporters!! Job done!!

Hi all.   Given what we already know about the state of Sheila and her clothing which completely clears her of any involvement and also taking into account that Jeremy implicated her in the deed, it will be somewhat interesting to see what spin Mckay is trying to put on this case.  Do you think that teskos recent attempts to change the words have anything to do with it?

Well spotted.  There is definitely something brewing and it isn't my evening cuppa.   If a TV documentary contained any realistic proof whatsoever of Bamber's innocence it would be seized by the CCRC.  On the other hand, providing evidence to ITV ahead of the CCRC decision is unethical but then again why am I not surprised. 

This new evidence amounts to yet another stunt, a cry for attention and bloody fools ITV fell for it.  What a bunch of sops!

[Admin]

Simon McKay has just tweeted us to confirm that the new evidence being looked at in the Tonight Programme was supplied to the CCRC in January. We asked the question was it ethical to air such a programme in advance of the CCRC decision.

We await a reply!

[John]

The Presenter of the programme on Bamber.

Mark Williams-Thomas



TV Presenter-Criminologist & Child Protection Expert- Prog's-On the Run (Exposure)Bullies Online,Lost Detective,To Catch a Paedophile(series)&Waking the Dead

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[Angelo222]

 8-)(--)       I might be wrong in saying this but I find it very hard to believe that any Eatons or Boutflours or even Pargeters would take part in any programme which in any way attempts to vindicate Jeremy Bamber when he has at every opportunity called for police to arrest Ann and Peter for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.  Bambers position is crystal clear in that he claims he was framed by them.  In addition there is an outstanding allegation of theft made by former farm secretary Barbara Wilson against Peter Eaton which has still to be resolved. Their participation in any video TV documentary would be highly improbable.

[Angelo222]

Admin, can you ask the presenter on Twitter if any of the family took part please?

[Tim Invictus]

I wouldn't be too worried about this new documentary ..... there is no way that ITV can do a one sided propaganda piece on behalf of a convicted child murderer. If it's not balanced they will get a ton of complaints to the broadcasting authorites.

Let's see what McKay has concocted and how he explains the facts that mean Sheila couldn't have done it in my opinion.

The CCRC aren't stupid and I think the programme will be a damp squib. But if it has some substance it will be interesting. If the evidence is rubbish but it does get Bamber to the CoA then I will campaign against Bamber.

The funniest thought is what if the moon is actually made of cheese and Bamber is innocent after all? Impossible in my opinion but stranger things have happened! Personally I would think that quite funny .... Bamber is such an arrogant s..mbag it couldn't have happened to a more deserving person! I know how bad that sounds but at least I am honest!   

[Admin]

We asked Mark Williams-Thomas today whether any of Jeremy Bambers relatives took part in the documentary?

He replied:  Morning - I can't at this stage say who is in the programme. It is however very balanced in regards to who has been spoken with.


Why all the secrecy?  He says spoken with but that does not necessarily imply any of them have chosen to appear on camera.  I think we will pursue this a bit further with our family contacts.

[Claudia]

We asked Mark Williams-Thomas today whether any of Jeremy Bambers relatives took part in the documentary?

He replied:  Morning - I can't at this stage say who is in the programme. It is however very balanced in regards to who has been spoken with.


Why all the secrecy?  He says spoken with but that does not necessarily imply any of them have chosen to appear on camera.  I think we will pursue this a bit further with our family contacts.

David is right in what he posted earlier today.  The family would be foolish to allow any media exposure at this time so close to the CCRC decision unless that decision has already been made.  The way I see it is that they would only speak out if the case was not going to be referred to the appeal court.  Time will tell though.

[Admin]

We asked Mark Williams-Thomas today whether any of Jeremy Bambers relatives took part in the documentary?

He replied:  Morning - I can't at this stage say who is in the programme. It is however very balanced in regards to who has been spoken with.


Why all the secrecy?  He says spoken with but that does not necessarily imply any of them have chosen to appear on camera.  I think we will pursue this a bit further with our family contacts.

David is right in what he posted earlier today.  The family would be foolish to allow any media exposure at this time so close to the CCRC decision unless that decision has already been made.  The way I see it is that they would only speak out if the case was not going to be referred to the appeal court.  Time will tell though.

Maybe the CCRC have already decided, they would have to let the family know in advance of any public announcement.  Remember that the CCRC are not obliged to publish any refusals to refer a case to the Court of Appeal.

[Tim Invictus]

I think someone in the family should tell a prime time terrestrial channe documentaryl their opinion that there is no doubt Bamber is guilty. I much prefer that to a statement that the family were asked to comment but declined to do so. 

Also I don't see why Vidvic would lie when he said they filmed at WHF and interviewed a few people. He knew it was ITV before Tesko Towers did!

I am glad to see the presenter say the piece is balanced and I don't think anyone should be unduly worried that this is Bamber propaganda. The BBC Simon McKay interview had Bob Woffinden for balance and he was far more impressive on radio than McKay imo.

I could do a Gladys Belton here and state a pretentious oneliner like 'The Truth Need Not Fear Publicity.   

[Harvey]

I agree that it would be wholly inappropriate for any of the family to comment ahead of the Commissions ruling on any referral to the courts.  If it so happened that Jeremy was magically cleared there would be an avalanche of civil cases to be sorted out and neither the Eatons or the Boutflours or anyone else is going to do anything which will effect that possible eventuality.  I noted a comment on the twitter site today when someone tweeted that if Bamber were ever realeased that Mugford and the rest of them would be in dire danger....a bloodbath they said.

[John]

We asked Mark Williams-Thomas today whether any of Jeremy Bambers relatives took part in the documentary?

He replied:  Morning - I can't at this stage say who is in the programme. It is however very balanced in regards to who has been spoken with.


Why all the secrecy?  He says spoken with but that does not necessarily imply any of them have chosen to appear on camera.  I think we will pursue this a bit further with our family contacts.

No need admin, I spoke to them yesterday. It is quite obvious that they wouldn't want to take part in such a programme.   McKay was the one behind the promotion of this short film, it offers nothing to the family.  Its sole purpose is to make Bamber look good in advance of any possible appeal.  This is what Bamber feeds on, take it away and he is a nothing, a non entity. We all know the facts in this case and no fantasy video will ever change them.

Jeremy Bamber is guilty as charged!

[Angelo222]

Thank you for asking Mr Williams Thomas about who took part in the film and his response is noted.   What is with all the secrecy is this film, I would have thought if they had managed to get any significant family member to speak on camera that it would have been quite a scoop for them but from my reading of it that just isn't the case.  I have a feeling they got permission to film some background shots at the farm but that is all.  The programme will only be about 22 minutes in length so that itself says much about what sort of detail it could ever go into in such a short period of time.  My own view is that there will be yet another big yawn at the end of it with the Bamber lot all congratulating each other on yet another piece of fantasy well publicised.  In the final analysis it will make no difference to Bambers situation.

[Admin]

Thank you for asking Mr Williams Thomas about who took part in the film and his response is noted.   What is with all the secrecy is this film, I would have thought if they had managed to get any significant family member to speak on camera that it would have been quite a scoop for them but from my reading of it that just isn't the case.  I have a feeling they got permission to film some background shots at the farm but that is all.  The programme will only be about 22 minutes in length so that itself says much about what sort of detail it could ever go into in such a short period of time.  My own view is that there will be yet another big yawn at the end of it with the Bamber lot all congratulating each other on yet another piece of fantasy well publicised.  In the final analysis it will make no difference to Bambers situation.

We can report that Simon McKay never responded to our questions about the evidence in the Bamber case or why he considers him to be innocent.  This is not at all surprising given the way lawyers operate.

On the basis of his reluctance to answer some very straight forward questions we can only assume that Simon McKay is not convinced of Bamber's innocence and is most certainly not prepared to put his head on the block because of him.

Another Bamber forum illusion dispelled in one full swoop!