Author Topic: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012  (Read 68145 times)

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Offline Tim Invictus

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #90 on: March 29, 2012, 09:15:32 PM »
I was far less impressed with Simon McKay than I expected to be. The only one I thought was a bit dodgy was Eric Allison of The Guardian ... I found him distateful and a little creepy ... I bit like Tesko.
Seemed more of a Bamberette than a serious reporter!

Offline abs

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #91 on: March 29, 2012, 09:19:55 PM »
I recall Bewes saying in a TV programme that Bamber had pointed to a window and seen movement. It was a room with no light on .... Bewes looked with another copper and originally thought he saw something. Then he found by moving side to side they could replicate it and it was a reflection ... trick of the light.

I haven't read any statements to that effect though. Programme may have been Crimes That Shocked Britian ... I am not sure.

It is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EDp_tqUysI

I think they ran to the police cars when they thought they saw movement, they didn't stand still checking the reflection. Who wouldn't have run with a possible armed and dangerous person inside?After this they called the firearms team, which BTW didn't have the guts to go inside to possibly save two little kids, but waited outside for hours and hours. I mean, they had no idea whether people inside were dead, alive or wounded. I have always wondered about this waiting for hours. But I digress.

Offline John

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #92 on: March 29, 2012, 09:22:37 PM »
Meet the lawyer, Mr Simon McKay.


A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Weety

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Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #93 on: March 29, 2012, 09:24:01 PM »
I was far less impressed with Simon McKay than I expected to be. The only one I thought was a bit dodgy was Eric Allison of The Guardian ... I found him distateful and a little creepy ... I bit like Tesko.
Seemed more of a Bamberette than a serious reporter!

He was the reporter that interviewed JB in prison wasn't he? I wonder how much of his opinion is a result of looking at the evidence, and how much it is influenced by having met him.

Well done on the stills John, can you get one of the NOWT story?

Offline John

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #94 on: March 29, 2012, 09:32:11 PM »
Former Det Inspector Ron Cook says the investigation was like a ship without a rower.


A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #95 on: March 29, 2012, 09:33:16 PM »
I was far less impressed with Simon McKay than I expected to be. The only one I thought was a bit dodgy was Eric Allison of The Guardian ... I found him distateful and a little creepy ... I bit like Tesko.
Seemed more of a Bamberette than a serious reporter!


I was just thinking that myself, I wonder what his true agenda was in all of this?   That Guardian article published today was full of bullshit as well.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Tim Invictus

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #96 on: March 29, 2012, 09:36:48 PM »
And (Z) still remains silent!  @)(++(*

Doesn't that programme expose Tesko for the absolute crank fruitcake he is .... 24/7 365 a year he 'works' to get his fabtasy idol Bamber free and no one takes a blind bit of notice of his drivel?

 @)(++(*  @)(++(* @)(++(*

Offline John

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2012, 09:44:09 PM »
Here is a photograph of the pig skin into which an identical rifle was fired.  Notice the marks left by the rifle with the sound moderator fitted on the right while on the left are the marks left by the rifle without any sound moderator fitted.

« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 09:54:45 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline abs

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2012, 09:45:43 PM »
Interesting. Thanks for the photos, John!!

Offline John

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #99 on: March 29, 2012, 09:49:30 PM »
Screen-shot of the News of the World article.



« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 09:52:57 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline abs

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2012, 09:58:43 PM »
Screen-shot of the News of the World article.





Good Lord!

Offline John

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #101 on: March 29, 2012, 10:04:23 PM »
Retired Det Supt Mick Gradwell (left) discusses the case with presenter and former detective Mark Williams-Thomas.


A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

tescoman

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Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #102 on: March 29, 2012, 10:08:18 PM »
I must say I was really disappointed in that program as I thought they would at least have discovered something important after all this time.  I like the photographs.   They will be a convenient reminder of the ITV tonight show.

Offline Harvey

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #103 on: March 29, 2012, 10:14:31 PM »
It is a good job it is on ITV Player as I missed it earlier.  It is also on at 2.30am if anyone wants to watch it on the box again.


It all seems to boil down to the two shots to Sheila neck then?  Does McKay think he will get Bamber off just because the original prosecution may have got it slightly wrong?  Does it matter that she was shot with an unsilenced weapon because as far as I can see it doesn't.

Offline Tim Invictus

Re: Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012
« Reply #104 on: March 29, 2012, 10:19:21 PM »
I swear I hadn't read this when I said Eric Allison looked dodgy:

Eric Allison is a former career criminal who was found guilty of conspiring to defraud Barclays Bank, and ‘did time’ in Strangeways and a number of other prisons. A ‘difficult’ prisoner, he spoke out about the abuse suffered at the hands of the authorities, and lent his support during the Strangeways Prison Revolt of 1990. In total he spent 16 years behind bars, 7 of which were for the Barclays job which netted £1 million and was to be his last hurrah.

Eric is currently the Guardian prison correspondent, a campaigning journalist whose mantra is that “we don’t know what goes on in our prisons.” He is a trustee of the Shannon Trust, a charity focused on improving literacy amongst the prison population, and speaks widely on crime, prisons, prisoners’ families and victims of crime at conferences, universities and charity events.
 
 


It's a bit like Myra Hindley putting in a good word for Ian Brady! Looks like he really is another Tesko .... spent time with Bamber playing hide the sauasage perhaps? Great choice ITV!

(Thank you to the good friend who point this info out to me btw  8@??)()