Author Topic: New Program featuring an interview with Barbara Wilson, former WHF secretary.  (Read 28176 times)

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Offline Holly Goodhead

In all these years, Bamber and his disciples have failed spectacularly, despite their exhaustive efforts, to produce any credible evidence to support his pleas of innocence.

Yes agreed.

I thought fresh appeals/submissions were winging it to ccrc on the back of the last failed submission?  I am led to believe one of the books may pave the wave but as Shona said may serve no better purpose than support a wonky table leg  @)(++(*

Who do you count as disciples?

Professionals working on a paid basis

Professionals working on a pro bono basis

Those with a bit of a voice eg Andrew Hunter, Eric Allison

Volunteers eg campaign team

Posters on the likes of Red and Blue

Are there any others groups that offer support that I have missed?

I really don't think any poster on a forum is going to make one iota either way.   
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline sika

Volunteers, eg. Campaign team.

Offline goatboy

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/killer-jeremy-bamber-bombshell-bid-2870475

Well, looks like McChancer is still on board and Bamber is still flogging the dead horse. Even if there was any blood on Sheila's feet (and the photo that I have seen does not even hint at the volume of blood there would have to have been) there is still a wealth of reasons why she couldn't possibly have committed the murders. Plus the marks on Nevill's back were brought up at the trial and no one could establish what caused them so why has anything changed since then? I thought they were trying to say they were done by the rifle barrell minus the silencer in that appalling ITV show last year. Didn't that form the basis of the last CCRC application which failed abysmally like they all have and will continue to?

Offline Outlook

I do not think it is Sheila's foot anyway.  The carpet in the background is the wrong color and she seems to have an extra toe unless she was a martyr to her bunions.  She was supposed to be a model and my feet are better than hers and I am twice the age she was.

Two tiny marks claimed to be blood spots after all the Psychobollocks about "ritual washing" that was a mainstay of the defence and the appeals and now it is "Oh sorry, she didn't wash after all, her feet were drenched in blood."  "Oh hang on she did wash her hands but not her feet."  "It is well known in murder-suicide cases that murderers always wash their hands but not their feet before killing themselves."

It is also well-known that women hardly ever kill themselves by gunshot, let alone shoot themselves twice in the neck and then go walkies through locked doors, cleverly avoiding broken glass and spilt sugar to put the silencer tidily away before getting back upstairs to expire, not next to her children but next to the mother she allegedly hated.

Good Plot Mike.  This one is going nowhere.  Another 27 years coming up for the only Child-Killer to have a more stupid fan club than Richard III.

« Last Edit: December 01, 2013, 10:26:53 PM by Outlook »

Offline Myster

What first struck me when I saw the "new" photo was the dark shadow underneath the ball of the foot, which looked more like a reflection from a metallic/mirrored surface, such as a stainless-steel mortuary table or gurney, rather than from a carpet or blanket. If the foot had been lying on a matt fabric, the shadow cast by a ceiling light or camera flashgun would have been completely dark or black, rather than the different shades that it appears to be.
The light-greenish hue in the rest of the picture is more likely be reflection of a similarly coloured ceiling of a mortuary room.



The photo obviously wasn't taken in the master bedroom, because the carpet was a cream/beige colour, unless it's being claimed that the body was on top of a green sheet/blanket on the floor, but the reflection theory suggested above would rule this out.

I doubt that it's faked or of anyone else’s foot if his lawyers obtained it from original trial or police files.

But part of their latest submission is about this photo (and/or others) not being shown to the jury, when Sheila's feet were described to them as spotless...  a pointless semantic argument really, because it depends on how one defines “spotless” and to what degree.

Six toes ?... bunions ?... easy enough for his team to answer that by asking Mr. Caffell.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Joanne

I can't find any other pictures of Sheila's feet to compare this one against, they could be anyone's feet as far as I know. The toe nails seem to be long (but it might be I like short toe nails) and wouldn't she have done something about that bunion/corn, it must have hurt and the nail polish had seen better days, I think it being summer and sandal season, Sheila would have repainted them and looked her best being a model.

Offline Holly Goodhead

I can't find any other pictures of Sheila's feet to compare this one against, they could be anyone's feet as far as I know. The toe nails seem to be long (but it might be I like short toe nails) and wouldn't she have done something about that bunion/corn, it must have hurt and the nail polish had seen better days, I think it being summer and sandal season, Sheila would have repainted them and looked her best being a model.

Hi Joanne

Nice to see a familiar face from Blue.

I'm pretty sure that the photographic expert involved with the case, Peter Sutherst, identified what appeared to be a chipped piece of varnished toenail in the kitchen which he believed belonged to Sheila.  I think he identified this when looking at photos of the scratches on the aga surround.  I have been trying to find confirmation without success so far but will continue to look.  I have spent a lot of time on Blue so of course may just be a figment of my imagination  @)(++(*  I don't think so though  ?{)(**

Have heard from my sexy spies on Blue aka The Knitting Circle Ladies (that's knit one, pearl one, drop one) that the ......... book is going to be dynamite  8-)(--)  Proof will be in the pudding I guess  ?>)()<  Talking of which may I ask will you be cooking or buying?  I'm not a big fan myself and as we're out for Crimbo day I don't think I'll bother.  I would sooner have a Spotted Dick  8(0(* 



« Last Edit: January 09, 2014, 01:31:51 AM by John »
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Angelo222

Shooting yourself not once but twice in the neck without getting blood on your fingers or on the rifle trigger is an impossibility.  Try it and see!
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Holly Goodhead

Shooting yourself not once but twice in the neck without getting blood on your fingers or on the rifle trigger is an impossibility. Try it and see!

Awww you don't mean that, do you?  8)><(

If it was so obvious why did EP and others initially write it off as 4 murders, 1 suicide? 

I don't go along with all these theories re police wrongdoing at the soc but I do think much of the soc 'evidence' is unreliable as initially all concerned were satisfied with 4 murders, 1 suicide.  EP are on record as saying that they were not as careful as they would normally have been hence Douglas Hurd, the then Home Secretary, tightened up police procedures to ensure what happened at WHF could not happen again.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Jodie

Barbara Wilson brings up some very interesting points about Jeremy's personality. I've never read anything about JB wearing make up before! What was the reasoning behind that? To wind up his parents?

Also the rats in the car? Why?

The documentary's take on the sequence of events is interesting also, although I don't really see where they're getting the evidence for Nevill having 'heard a noise' and coming downstairs as a result. From reading comments on here I'd had the impression Nevill had been shot in the master bedroom first before making his way to the kitchen.

Offline scipio_usmc

Barbara Wilson brings up some very interesting points about Jeremy's personality. I've never read anything about JB wearing make up before! What was the reasoning behind that? To wind up his parents?

Also the rats in the car? Why?

The documentary's take on the sequence of events is interesting also, although I don't really see where they're getting the evidence for Nevill having 'heard a noise' and coming downstairs as a result. From reading comments on here I'd had the impression Nevill had been shot in the master bedroom first before making his way to the kitchen.

Yes the shooting started upstairs. Nevill's blood was in the bedroom as were casings from the shots that caused the blood. He was finished off in the kitchen, that is not where the shooting started. So you are quite right the claims are not supported by the evidence.

To be honest documentaries and the like are often wrong in many respects.  Only people who investigated the matter prior though can recognize such shortfalls as you did, kudos to you.   

 
“...there are three classes of intellects: one which comprehends by itself; another which appreciates what others comprehend; and a third which neither comprehends by itself nor by the showing of others; the first is the most excellent, the second is good, the third is useless.”  Niccolò Machiavelli

Offline Holly Goodhead

Barbara Wilson brings up some very interesting points about Jeremy's personality. I've never read anything about JB wearing make up before! What was the reasoning behind that? To wind up his parents?

Also the rats in the car? Why?

The documentary's take on the sequence of events is interesting also, although I don't really see where they're getting the evidence for Nevill having 'heard a noise' and coming downstairs as a result. From reading comments on here I'd had the impression Nevill had been shot in the master bedroom first before making his way to the kitchen.

Hi Jodie.  I have a feeling you're going to make me feel a babe or incredibly ancient!  A pop culture existed in the 80's referred to as New Romanticism.  The associated fashion involved guys wearing flamboyant clothing and face make-up. Check out bands/artists like Visage, Japan, Gary Numan, Duran Duran, Culture Club, Adam Ant, Gary Numan

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Romanticism

It was a great era  8(0(*

Rats?  I watched the prog but can't recall if they were dead or alive or in Babara's car or June's?  Perhaps they were The Boomtown Rats  8)-)))


Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?