Prosecution evidence?

[Mr Gray]

Here we go again with your insults.

No, you just quoted what suited you.

Now if you really believe in what you say, donate funds to the Cipriano's to help them have the verdict overturned.

 another stupid post..if there is a help fund I would gladly donate

[stephen25000]

another stupid post..if there is a help fund I would gladly donate

Insults, insults.

Set one up.

[Anna]

Do we have a thread on defence evidence?

[Redblossom]

another stupid post..if there is a help fund I would gladly donate

Did you read leonoras letter confession from 2009 yet? Any comment? Silence is golden...

[Eleanor]

Did you read leonoras letter confession from 2009 yet? Any comment? Silence is golden...

There are some serious doubts about the authenticity of that so called Confession.  The handwriting of the letter and the handwriting of the signature are not the same.  Was it dictated, and if so to whom?  And why would she bother to dictate a hand written letter to someone else who doesn't even say who they are?

[Redblossom]

There are some serious doubts about the authenticity of that so called Confession.  The handwriting of the letter and the handwriting of the signature are not the same.  Was it dictated, and if so to whom?  And why would she bother to dictate a hand written letter to someone else who doesn't even say who they are?

Who has the doubts? Has Leonor said that letter was a fake? Does your signature match your everyday handwriting?

[Eleanor]

Yep, my signature perfectly matches my hand writing.  And if I was dictating a confession I would expect it to be type written, and acknowledged by the person who took the dictation.  Otherwise it wouldn't be valid.

[DCI]

Yep, my signature perfectly matches my hand writing.  And if I was dictating a confession I would expect it to be type written, and acknowledged by the person who took the dictation.  Otherwise it wouldn't be valid.

Leonor didn't sign it.

Inspectors Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Marques Bom signed the document saying it was the result of an “informal chat” that took place with Leonor Cipriano.

[Redblossom]

Leonor didn't sign it.

Inspectors Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Marques Bom signed the document saying it was the result of an “informal chat” that took place with Leonor Cipriano.

You forgot the back up link dear....

[Redblossom]

Yep, my signature perfectly matches my hand writing.  And if I was dictating a confession I would expect it to be type written, and acknowledged by the person who took the dictation.  Otherwise it wouldn't be valid.

Who said she dictated it instead of writing it???

And youdidnt answer my question, has she said its a fake?

As for signatures which are often scrawl.....no evidence they shuld match handwriting

[Eleanor]

Leonor didn't sign it.

Inspectors Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Marques Bom signed the document saying it was the result of an “informal chat” that took place with Leonor Cipriano.

Jeez, that's even worse.  What is coming out is awful.  That poor woman.

[Mr Gray]

Who said she dictated it instead of writing it???

And youdidnt answer my question, has she said its a fake?

 I think it is becoming more and more obvious that a gross miscarriage of justice has taken place...someone jailed for 20 years on evidence gained from torture

[Benice]

Leonor didn't sign it.

Inspectors Paulo Pereira Cristovao and Marques Bom signed the document saying it was the result of an “informal chat” that took place with Leonor Cipriano.

A 'confession' came as a result of an 'informal chat'?   So no lawyer present then?   

[Eleanor]

A 'confession' came as a result of an 'informal chat'?   So no lawyer present then?   

And Leonor Cipriano didn't even write it herself.  This is a scandal.  But thanks to RedBlossom for providing the link.  We really do need to know about these things, and the lengths to which some of these people will go.

And didn't Cristovao write a book about this case?  You know, the Cristovao who has got so many criminal charges against him that I have lost count.

Tick Tock.

[sadie]

another stupid post..if there is a help fund I would gladly donate

Me too