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ferryman

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #105 on: December 03, 2013, 07:51:51 PM »
Lol the old jersey fall back. I suggest you read the voice of Jersey blog regarding the so called coconut which was never shown to be a coconut.

I can post the links if you're willing to out your bias to one side.

The report of Wiltshire police is the one.

Confirmation that Eddie reacted to a coconut.

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Redblossom

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #107 on: December 03, 2013, 08:01:23 PM »
The report of Wiltshire police is the one.

Confirmation that Eddie reacted to a coconut.

Eddie does not alert to vegetables, have a small rethink.......

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #108 on: December 03, 2013, 08:11:17 PM »
The report of Wiltshire police is the one.

Confirmation that Eddie reacted to a coconut.

Which anthropologist was that then?

Not one of ms Brock's email exchanges was it?
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stephen25000

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #109 on: December 03, 2013, 08:13:24 PM »
Which anthropologist was that then?

Not ms Brock was it?

Both coconuts ?

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #110 on: December 03, 2013, 08:17:18 PM »
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In this e-mail, headed, “Re: Jersey Skull for C14 Dating,” she said that ‘the Director had now expressed concern about what the fragment was. The Technician (who is not an Anthropologist) who was carrying out the process commented that it ‘looked like a coconut husk.’ She went on to say “If it isn’t bone I am really sorry,” but then finishes with “although it could well have been poorly preserved bone as I described it.” 

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #111 on: December 03, 2013, 08:30:39 PM »
That is how many people view the mccann book.

I have not read that either.
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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #112 on: December 03, 2013, 08:31:30 PM »
Sure, no problem -

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/sedative

noun
a drug taken for its calming or sleep-inducing effect:

That is not the OED.
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ferryman

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #113 on: December 03, 2013, 08:40:15 PM »
That is not the OED.
Whatever dictionary it is, read the header:

Definition of sedative in English

Who is arguing?

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #114 on: December 03, 2013, 08:51:13 PM »
Whatever dictionary it is, read the header:

Definition of sedative in English

Who is arguing?

Er we are waiting for your the name of your anthropologist from the Wiltshire report you cited just to make sure it's not the same technician (note not an anthropologist) quoted in the voice for Jersey blog who thought it looked like a coconut....

ferryman

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #115 on: December 03, 2013, 09:03:58 PM »
Er we are waiting for your the name of your anthropologist from the Wiltshire report you cited just to make sure it's not the same technician (note not an anthropologist) quoted in the voice for Jersey blog who thought it looked like a coconut....

Page 320 (link to follow)

In an e-mail to OFFICER X
and others, CO POWER states ‘my
understanding of the rules is that we should not
commit to non budgeted expenditure until the
proposition is passed by the States’.
 X completes X    report in respect of
Exhibit JAR/6. In it X     states that the sample was
not bone and not human, appearing instead to be
more like part of a large seed casing or part of
something like a small piece of coconut.


http://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20WiltshireOperationHavenRedacted%2020081112%20JN.pdf
« Last Edit: December 03, 2013, 09:05:39 PM by ferryman »

ferryman

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #116 on: December 03, 2013, 09:30:28 PM »
I think you'll find that it is -

Publishers of http://www.oxforddictionaries.com are the Oxford University Press,

who are -

http://www.ox.ac.uk/ - Oxford University Press is a department of the University of Oxford. It furthers the University's objective of excellence in research, scholarship, and education by publishing worldwide.

Go by the definition.

The definition says that sedatives sedate (now there's a major surprise)

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« Reply #117 on: December 03, 2013, 09:37:49 PM »
Page 320 (link to follow)

In an e-mail to OFFICER X
and others, CO POWER states ‘my
understanding of the rules is that we should not
commit to non budgeted expenditure until the
proposition is passed by the States’.
 X completes X    report in respect of
Exhibit JAR/6. In it X     states that the sample was
not bone and not human, appearing instead to be
more like part of a large seed casing or part of
something like a small piece of coconut.


http://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocuments/Government%20and%20administration/R%20WiltshireOperationHavenRedacted%2020081112%20JN.pdf

From Lenny Harper :

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Wiltshire Police seem to have totally ignored the e mails from the Oxford Lab in respect of what they found when the examined JAR/6. It is worth remembering that these people are only qualified to date material, NOT to give an expert view on what it is. Only an anthropologist can do that and the only anthropologists who examined JAR/6 said it was a piece of child’s skull.

ferryman

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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #118 on: December 03, 2013, 10:14:26 PM »
Page 255:

The sample was logged into the ORAU system in the usual manner
and, as in all cases, a sample of bone powder was drilled from the
underside of the specimen using a tungsten carbide drill. The powder
weighed 440 mg. The technician performing this procedure noted that
the material did not behave as bone ordinarily would and did not have
the texture that normal bone exhibits. The technician has a great deal
of experience in the sampling of bone (almost 30 years). Because of
this uncertainty, and as a precaution, a small amount of the sample
was combusted to measure the % nitrogen remaining. % N is a good
correlate for protein, which is dominated in bone by collagen, and the
measurement of nitrogen offers a simple test concerning whether the
sample is dateable or not. Low % N means that the material is
essentially un-dateable using radiocarbon.
5.6.20 X (ORAU) reported that the Jersey sample only had
0.6 % N. Ordinarily this is too low to yield extractable collagen of any
quality. Despite our concerns, X requested that a fuller
chemical treatment be undertaken, in an attempt to produce a
result, but although some material was extracted it was demonstrably
not collagenous based
on the analysis of the texture of the material,
the C:N atomic ratios and the similarly significant lack of nitrogen, so
the sample was formally failed and the States of Jersey Police notified

Certainly, the density of the
material is most unlike bone, it is too light. Our conclusion is that this
sample is: a) not bone and b) not human. We are very surprised that
the forensic archaeologist could be so confident and differ in X
identification. We suggested at the time that a further opinion would be
required, but this not considered by X .
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Re: Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.
« Reply #119 on: December 04, 2013, 12:40:31 AM »
HC: Suddenly, Madeleine's hairs were all over the place! Hairs were sent to the FSS, hairs were sent to the Lab, hairs were sent to the police, hairs everywhere.

GA: Too many hairs.

HC: Is it possible for me to have a hair and than say ?this hair belongs to Mr. Jos?Ant?io? [figure of speech]?

GA: I was about to explain that. The FSS stated that due to the hair tone, they belonged to Madeleine McCann, but that they couldn't extract the DNA because the hairs did not have any roots. Nowadays, labs in Europe can actually extract DNA without the roots, and arrive to a conclusion, if the DNA belongs to that person or not. Furthermore, those hairs can help us understand if the child - like her grandfather said, some journalists also said that at the time - did take an antihistaminic in order to sleep at night. (2012)
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.