The inspection of the McCann's clothing by dogs Keela and Eddie in the gym.

[Angelo222]

Do you think it's possible Amaral could have lied?

Certainly but he had very little to gain from putting a non truth about the deployment of the clothes in his book as it only made the PJ look silly.  He could have left that bit out very easily.  The fact that he released this information when Harrison appears to have conveniently ignored it is concerning to say the least.  If what Amaral states is true it leaves you wondering what else did Harrison forget to include in his report??

[Carana]

I had a look at the clothes saga again.

From Almeida's report:

6.1. Cadaver dog:
* 2 pieces of clothing of Kate McCann
* One piece of Madeleine McCann
* Madeleine's soft toy
* The odour was detected when the toy was still in the interior of the actual residence of the McCann
* It was confirmed in out of the house conditions
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAVARES_ALMEIDA.htm

What I noted from the video is different. Times are approximate.

Keela doesn't react.

Eddie lies down waiting for instruction to check.
He has a quick run over the clothes. No reaction.

 
1:01:09 - Called back and goes to back wall. Tosses tiny blue shorts and barks, and carries on barking. Tosses  small red T-shirt and barks more. Carries on barking, plays with Kate's trousers,  moves to large T-shirt along side wall (lifts part of it in his mouth), barking throughout.

1:01:40 Eddie taken away. Then allowed back again. Barks in corner.

The blue shorts aren't in the list, yet that's the first item he tosses and which sets him off barking. I don't see him react to Kate's top, yet that is in the list. The large T-shirt doesn't make the list either.

[Redblossom]

Ah thanks for that FM...on reading the whole thing turns out MH did ask for the screening of the car and your post here from another thread is erroneous, which makes your other previous post calling Grime unprofessional for deciding to screen the Mccanns car erroneous too. To which I replied  it was MHs recommendation not Grime's.....glad thats sorted, you learn somethng new every day

Harrison recommended that the dogs be deployed where Madeleine, either was known to have been or, conceivably, might have been.

He did not recommend searches anywhere were Madeleine was known, definitely, never to have been: the Renault Scenic, the villa or the gym.

Link for that ^ post

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3067.60

Quote by MH

The output of this process of reconnaissance and review was a written document entitled “Madeleine McCann Search Decision Support Document” (see appendix 2) and submitted to the PJ with copies supplied to Leicestershire Police and NPIA on 23-07-07.
It recommended considering re searching:
 
- All accommodation occupied by the McCann family and their friends as well as any hired vehicles.

<Snip>

On 25-07-07 the PJ Director decided his officers would re-search some of the areas suggested within the report. He also decided the order of their priority. These were the accommodation the McCann’s and their friends have occupied in Praia da Luz, the villa and the grounds occupied by Robert Murat, wasteland that surrounds these locations and any known vehicles the suspect, the McCanns and their friends had access to when Madeleine disappeared

Unquote


 
Link for all MH related reports:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

[ferryman]

You need to read what I've posted properly ...

[Redblossom]

You need to read what I've posted properly ...

Thats not any kind of reply to my  factual post, but never mind....if you want to assert MH did not recommend the mccanns car be searched and it was Grime (and this was an example that he acted unprofessionally ..sic) and or the PJ...well, carry on....its false though.....spreading misinformation is not helpful

Eta Shall leave you to your mission now...
 

[pegasus]

If a shelf of clothes is signalled and 3 clothes are signalled does not this mean those clothes were on that shelf, and this distills 4 signals down to a single simple explanation, or have I been drinking too much Occam's single malt?

[lizzibif]

I have been told he won't answer any questions at the moment since it is still an open investigation which of course is his prerogative.  Looks like the myths are set to continue for some time to come.

Thanks admin.

I was right, I knew he wouldn't it was obvious..

[Benice]

From Almeida's report:

6.1. Cadaver dog:

* 2 pieces of clothing of Kate McCann

* One piece of Madeleine McCann

* Madeleine's soft toy
* The odour was detected when the toy was still in the interior of the actual residence of the McCann
* It was confirmed in out of the house conditions[/b][/u]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TAVARES_ALMEIDA.htm

Surely this is wrong.  Cuddlecat was not alerted to at the gym.

Also the red top was not Madeleine's imo.

Therefore the link which IMO is being proposed by TdA between cadaverscent, Kate and Madeleine is erroneous.

[Angelo222]

We have two threads running at the moment which are very similar in content so can I ask that care be taken when posting responses.

As far as cuddlecat or the soft toy is concerned I'm sure everyone has seen the video of what happened in the villa.  Eddie pulled cuddlecat out of the toy box and shook him into the air.  End off one might think but no!

Not content with that Martin Grime puts the toy in the cupboard under the sink and deploys Eddie again.  Eddie sniffs around the kitchen before sitting and barking in front of the same cupboard.  Grime thinks that this proves something...I agree.  It proves he is a f.....g [self censored]

[Admin]

We have two threads running at the moment which are very similar in content so can I ask that care be taken when posting responses.

As far as cuddlecat or the soft toy is concerned I'm sure everyone has seen the video of what happened in the villa.  Eddie pulled cuddlecat out of the toy box and shook him into the air.  End off one might think but no!

Not content with that Martin Grime puts the toy in the cupboard under the sink and deploys Eddie again.  Eddie sniffs around the kitchen before sitting and barking in front of the same cupboard.  Grime thinks that this proves something...I agree.  It proves he is a f.....g [self censored]

I'm pleased you censored that comment Angelo. ...assuming always that it was not a term of endearment.   

[Anna]

We have two threads running at the moment which are very similar in content so can I ask that care be taken when posting responses.

As far as cuddlecat or the soft toy is concerned I'm sure everyone has seen the video of what happened in the villa.  Eddie pulled cuddlecat out of the toy box and shook him into the air.  End off one might think but no!

Not content with that Martin Grime puts the toy in the cupboard under the sink and deploys Eddie again.  Eddie sniffs around the kitchen before sitting and barking in front of the same cupboard.  Grime thinks that this proves something...I agree.  It proves he is a f.....g [self censored]

I felt really sorry for Eddie. From what I've seen, he looked as if he was trying very hard to please his master. I think the dog is more at home in an area that is less confining. So it appears the doggie investigation didn't help and was  incorrectly reported.

[Silkywhiskers]

We have two threads running at the moment which are very similar in content so can I ask that care be taken when posting responses.

As far as cuddlecat or the soft toy is concerned I'm sure everyone has seen the video of what happened in the villa.  Eddie pulled cuddlecat out of the toy box and shook him into the air.  End off one might think but no!

Not content with that Martin Grime puts the toy in the cupboard under the sink and deploys Eddie again.  Eddie sniffs around the kitchen before sitting and barking in front of the same cupboard.  Grime thinks that this proves something...I agree.  It proves he is a f.....g [self censored]

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Martin Grime was actually PC Grime, a member of the great British Constabulary, as were Canine Units Eddie and Keela.

British Police.  Just like the ones we are trusting now.

So which is it? Are they an organisation of criminals themselves, as you're implying?  Because falsifying evidence is a crime.

[ferryman]

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Martin Grime was actually PC Grime, a member of the great British Constabulary, as were Canine Units Eddie and Keela.

British Police.  Just like the ones we are trusting now.

So which is it? Are they an organisation of criminals themselves, as you're implying?  Because falsifying evidence is a crime.

The dogs had no agenda.

Grime had an agenda.

Grime's agenda had nothing to do with malice ...

[Mr Gray]

How about answering my question?

You need to try and understand the real facts of the case then your posts may make more sense

[pegasus]

Just a reminder that a signal of a person's clothes does not incriminate that person.