Author Topic: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits  (Read 95852 times)

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ferryman

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Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #225 on: December 22, 2013, 09:24:19 PM »
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You are fond of that emoticon.

It is one way of avoiding debate when you have been established wrong ...

AnneGuedes

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Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #226 on: December 22, 2013, 09:30:15 PM »
You are fond of that emoticon.

It is one way of avoiding debate when you have been established wrong ...
You're not being honest, Ferryman, and it's not the first time.
You assume critics of the PJ without backing up your claims, your agenda is to discredit Mr Grime and the PJ, I don't know why and I don't mind.
You make me laugh ! that has certainly to be put on your credit !

ferryman

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Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #227 on: December 22, 2013, 09:32:19 PM »
You're not being honest, Ferryman, and it's not the first time.
You assume critics of the PJ without backing up your claims, your agenda is to discredit Mr Grime and the PJ, I don't know why and I don't mind.
You make me laugh ! that has certainly to be put on your credit !

Confirmation.

You clearly don't read my posts ...

Offline sadie

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #228 on: December 22, 2013, 09:35:18 PM »
Are you out of your mind ? SY have not only ruled out Tannerman BUT have also interviewed the man in question, having collected his child from the night crèche !
Are you doubting and casting aspersions over the SY investigation ?
Simple facts, lesson one, SY have eliminated Tannerman as having no relevance to the alleged abduction of Madeleine McCann ! In light of this, why the official findmadeleine website continues to promote Tannerman as a "person of interest"  whilst not publicising the legally 'suppressed' Smithman e-fits beggars belief !
Not at all.  Just saying that all the publicity and people who reacted to Crimewatch, might have found some holes in statements given by this man.... and they may have progressed  and ammended.

I dont know and you dont know either ... unless you are SY or PJ or the man.

Lyall

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Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #229 on: December 22, 2013, 09:40:11 PM »
Not at all.  Just saying that all the publicity and people who reacted to Crimewatch, might have found some holes in statements given by this man.... and they may have progressed  and ammended.

I dont know and you dont know either ... unless you are SY or PJ or the man.

Very unlikely, Sadie. I'd put money on that.

Offline sadie

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #230 on: December 22, 2013, 09:40:47 PM »
They hardly could take for granted the words of a person who saw a blank face but the type of shoe and the heel's height.
Ever thought that the head might have been turned away, Anne?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #231 on: December 22, 2013, 09:48:10 PM »
He did not have to be hiding in the apartment, although it is possible.  If the apartment was watched then a an aduction with a key could have been accomplished in less than a minute ... and no finger prints on the door.  The time is continually being stretched I notice .... so it happened at 9.10 now, did it?  It could have been any time between 9.10 and 9 22 imo.

With a key via the front door and a watcher, it is perfectly possible.

Jane said she left the tapas bar at 9.10pm (Rachael also said that was the time) so she would have sighted the man at 9.12pm. On the tapas timeline it was 9.20pm. Someone wanted to bring the timeline forward for Kate's check at 10pm because of the Smithman sighting at that time (can't be in two places at once deception). This was pre-planned but by no abductor or paedo gang. The shutters were raised from the inside of the apartment not the outside. An abductor wouldn't waste time or touch those noisy shutters if he had a key to the door.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2013, 10:02:41 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #232 on: December 22, 2013, 09:49:25 PM »
I've always found laughable the obsession in spreading photos of Madeleine among the GNR/PJ, as if many 3/4 yrs would be walking around on their own.
Doesn't matter whethber she was walking around on her own or was in a crowd of people, the photos of Madeleine were photos of the missing girl.  What is laughable about that Anne?

Offline sadie

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #233 on: December 22, 2013, 09:57:24 PM »
You're not being honest, Ferryman, and it's not the first time.
You assume critics of the PJ without backing up your claims, your agenda is to discredit Mr Grime and the PJ, I don't know why and I don't mind.
You make me laugh ! that has certainly to be put on your credit !
Anne, that you, especially, should call Ferryman dishonest is a gross travesty of Justice.

I have known Ferryman for over 6 years and I have never known him lie. .. or twist

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #234 on: December 22, 2013, 10:09:31 PM »
You're not being honest, Ferryman, and it's not the first time.
You assume critics of the PJ without backing up your claims, your agenda is to discredit Mr Grime and the PJ, I don't know why and I don't mind.
You make me laugh ! that has certainly to be put on your credit !

 mr Grime doesn't need to be discredited...he said the dogs alerts were meaningless without forensic confirmation...we all understand that...the PJ didnt

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #235 on: December 22, 2013, 10:13:11 PM »
You're not being honest, Ferryman, and it's not the first time.
You assume critics of the PJ without backing up your claims, your agenda is to discredit Mr Grime and the PJ, I don't know why and I don't mind.
You make me laugh ! that has certainly to be put on your credit !

It appears more that davel and ferryman are putting forward legal defense arguments rather than Internet forum debate.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline sadie

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #236 on: December 22, 2013, 10:15:30 PM »
Jane said she left the tapas bar at 9.10pm (Rachael also said that was the time) so she would have sighted the man at 9.12pm. On the tapas timeline it was 9.20pm. Someone wanted to bring the timeline forward for Kate's check at 10pm because of the Smithman sighting. This was pre-planned but by no abductor or paedo gang.


With all due respect Pathfinder, those are your thoughts only, and they should be stated as such.  They are not fact

The shutters were raised from the inside of the apartment not the outside. An abductor wouldn't waste time or touch those noisy shutters if he had a key to the door.
I think you are probably right about the window and shutter being raised from inside   However, we dont KNOW that .  Heribert Janosch proved that in certain circumstances they could have been raiseed from the outside and the window opened also from outside, if it was only closed and not lockeed.

Reasons for the window open and shutters raised have been gone over time and again ... and there are at least 7 possible reasons

Just to list a few

1)  As an escape route in emergency
2)  To take the investigators eye off the door as the entrance point.  Why?  Because this pointed to someone with access to OC keys being involved
3)  To give the false impression for the Golden period that Madeleine had climbed out of the window and wandered off..  The first few hours are the Golden ones
4)  To pass drugs and give instructions
5)  To give moral support to the lifter.
6)  For the lifter to watch for anyone coming from the car park direction

The sound of shutters would be a common sound in OC and like a car passing by, would be unlikely to be noticed by neighbours.  Seems it wasn't noticed by anyone, so why all the fuss about it?   It cant have been that obtrusive, can it?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #237 on: December 22, 2013, 10:16:33 PM »
Anne, that you, especially, should call Ferryman dishonest is a gross travesty of Justice.

I have known Ferryman for over 6 years and I have never known him lie. .. or twist

"gross travesty of Justice"

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Offline sadie

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #238 on: December 22, 2013, 10:18:18 PM »
It appears more that davel and ferryman are putting forward legal defense arguments rather than Internet forum debate.
I cant see anything wrong with that.  Why does it trouble you?

Offline sadie

Re: The Find Madeleine website, Tannerman & the e-fits
« Reply #239 on: December 22, 2013, 10:20:40 PM »
"gross travesty of Justice"

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What a splendid sense of humour you have Wspam

You laugh at so little.  Rather pathetic really isn't it?