Author Topic: The Charity Collectors (Paul Gordon & Iris Morgan witness statements)  (Read 4454 times)

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Paul Gordon witness statement

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAUL_GORDON.htm


Iris Morgan witness statement

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/REX-MORGAN.htm



Daily Mirror Jan 7th 2008

A suspicious stalker was seen lurking outside Madeleine McCann's holiday flat just five days before she vanished, it was confirmed yesterday.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-saw-stalker-by-maddy-apartment-284548


Madeleine: New witness confronted man lurking near apartment days before she disappeared

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506446/Madeleine-New-witness-confronted-man-lurking-near-apartment-days-disappeared.html


There were four separate charity collector sightings on the 3rd May in Praia da Luz between 3.30pm and 5.30pm. From one of these sightings an e-fit was compiled of a man who approached a property on Rua do Ramalhete, near the Ocean Club, at approximately 4.00pm. He is described as Portuguese, with medium length wavy hair, aged 25-30. He is said to have spoken good English. E-fit 4A

E-fit 4B is of a charity collector who called at apartment G5A on the 25th or 26th April between 1430 and 1500. He is described as a Portuguese looking man, aged between 40-45 years old, with short dark hair, slightly grey at sides. He was carrying a clipboard or pad, a receipt book and an ID card with his photo on it,  but in that photo he had a goatee beard.

http://content.met.police.uk/Appeal/Madeleine-McCann-Appeal--October-2013/1400020463601/1257246741786

Crimewatch

@ 31;15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok&feature=player_embedded

« Last Edit: April 03, 2014, 05:41:42 PM by Wonderfulspam »
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Offline Mr Moderator

Re: The Charity Collector
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2013, 01:37:04 PM »
Does anyone know if this guy has ever been identified, questioned or ruled out of the inquiry?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Charity Collector
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2013, 01:41:16 PM »
Does anyone know if this guy has ever been identified, questioned or ruled out of the inquiry?

His efit picture was shown on crimewatch.

(@ 30.20)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok&feature=player_embedded
« Last Edit: December 27, 2013, 01:55:20 PM by Wonderfulspam »
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Charity Collector
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2013, 02:27:14 PM »
I find it to be somewhat amazing that in a small place like Praia da Luz that these men have not been identified. Surely charity collectors are regulated and are registered with the police in Portugal??
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Charity Collector
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2013, 02:30:28 PM »
I find it to be somewhat amazing that in a small place like Praia da Luz that these men have not been identified. Surely charity collectors are regulated and are registered with the police in Portugal??

They could of been bogus and just trying to fleece a few tourists with some fake documentation perhaps?
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The Charity Collector
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2013, 11:42:42 PM »
The crimewatch clip contains this picture at 30:20, wonderfulspam:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/T_M_S_AGE_12.htm


This is the person that the twelve year old girl whose grandmother used to own Apartment 5A witnessed watching the apartment on more than one occasion.

Is this the same person as the 'charity collector' , or a different person? The photo fits are different.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Charity Collector
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2013, 12:18:24 AM »
The crimewatch clip contains this picture at 30:20, wonderfulspam:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/T_M_S_AGE_12.htm


This is the person that the twelve year old girl whose grandmother used to own Apartment 5A witnessed watching the apartment on more than one occasion.

Is this the same person as the 'charity collector' , or a different person? The photo fits are different.

Different person to the charity collector I believe although I think there might be more than one charity collector.

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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The Charity Collector
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2013, 01:42:37 AM »
Different person to the charity collector I believe although I think there might be more than one charity collector.

But the e-fit in your initial post in this thread is not the same as the e-fit you alert to in the youtube clip at 30:20..that's what I mean.

That picture in the clip matches the e-fit created in connection with the sighting of the 12-year-old girl (anonymous; referred to as TMS in the McCann files):

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/T_M_S_AGE_12.htm


Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Charity Collector
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2013, 09:02:25 AM »
But the e-fit in your initial post in this thread is not the same as the e-fit you alert to in the youtube clip at 30:20..that's what I mean.

That picture in the clip matches the e-fit created in connection with the sighting of the 12-year-old girl (anonymous; referred to as TMS in the McCann files):

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/T_M_S_AGE_12.htm

Wrote the wrong clip time.

@ 31.15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJwns_MTok&feature=player_embedded
« Last Edit: December 28, 2013, 01:01:33 PM by Wonderfulspam »
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The Charity Collector (Paul Gordon statement)
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2013, 03:21:30 PM »
Thanks,  I should have continued watching.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Charity Collector (Paul Gordon statement)
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2013, 03:36:40 PM »
Thanks,  I should have continued watching.

No problem.

I was just creating these threads for a log & look at some of those suspected & the media stories that surrounded them. Plus it would be interseting to see which if any have been ruled out.
Any input welcome.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Charity Collector (Paul Gordon statement)
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2014, 10:54:48 PM »
22nd March 2014

Daily Mirror

Madeleine McCann police hunt two Eastern European bogus charity workers who targeted Algarve holiday homes

The “significant development” regarding men in their 50s with heavy builds came hours after a new appeal on Crimewatch last Wednesday


Police hunting for Madeleine McCann have been given vital new clues about two bogus charity workers operating in the resort when the tot went missing.

The “significant development” came hours after a new appeal on Crimewatch last Wednesday.

British officers were given fresh details about the conmen now believed to be Eastern European rather than Portuguese as originally thought.

They were told both were in their 50s with heavy builds. The men, claiming to be fundraisers for disabled children, were seen knocking on doors of ­apartments in Praia da Luz where the three-year-old went missing in 2007.

They had a yellow calling card showing a girl in a wheelchair pictured on the double-sided note. Both were also seen drinking coffees and shots of spirits in the morning outside a shopping centre yards from the apartment where the youngster vanished.

A source said: “The men were knocking on the doors of holidaymakers asking for cash for a charity for handicapped children. They disappeared from the area but it is not known how they­ ­travelled about.

“The charity card they used had six or seven sentences on each side. One was written in Portuguese and the other in English, but with very poor grammar.

“They said very little and appeared to rely on showing people their card. It is believed they were Eastern ­European.”

Scotland Yard officers on Operation Grange are keen to trace the two men. They believe they had previously targeted other areas in the Algarve and are focusing attention on the resort of Albufeira.

Police have previously issued e-fit photos of two bogus charity workers operating in the area – but believed them to be Portuguese at the time.

The fresh intelligence emerged after officers in the hunt launched an appeal on Wednesday night’s BBC1 Crimewatch programme – sparking more than 250 calls and emails.

Det Chief Insp Andy Redwood also revealed police are looking for an intruder who sexually abused five British children during break-ins in the area.

The tanned, dark-haired man is suspected of breaking in to 12 properties where families were staying in the Algarve between 2004 and 2010.

In four of the incidents, a total of five girls aged between seven and 10 were sexually assaulted.

These attacks all happened between 2004 and 2006, before Madeleine vanished the following year.

Mr Redwood said: “I’m sure the public will understand the significant features of this offending.

“A man attacking young, white, female children, in their beds while they are on holiday with their families has a very close resonance to some of the features of Madeleine’s disappearance.

“We need to identify the offender to bring to a close the trauma and the tragedy that these families have suffered.

“Then we need to establish whether this is connected to Madeleine’s disappearance.”

A Yard spokesman said: “We have received over 250 calls and emails following the appeal. Officers are now reviewing the information and following up lines of inquiry."

Madeleine disappeared from her family’s holiday ­apartment in Praia da Luz on May 3 2007 as her parents Kate and Gerry dined at a nearby restaurant with friends, leaving their daughter sleeping with her younger twin siblings.

British detectives launched a fresh ­investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance in July last year – two years into a review of the case – and made renewed appeals on television in the UK, the Netherlands and Germany.

Portuguese authorities shelved their inquiry into Madeleine’s disappearance in 2008.

But they admitted last October that a review had uncovered enough new information to justify reopening it.

Last week Scotland Yard expressed frustration at the speed of the ­Portuguese legal system as they try to discover what has happened to the missing ­youngster.

David Cameron has said he would be willing to appeal directly to the P­ortuguese government if British police felt their investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance was being hampered by bureaucracy.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said Mr Cameron would be prepared to “make further representations” to the government in Portugal if it would help Scotland Yard’s inquiry.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Martin Hewitt revealed Scotland Yard’s dissatisfaction with their slow progress. He said: “That’s causing us ­frustration because we know what we want to do and we are ready to go with that. But the process is the process.”

Scotland Yard has so far written three international letters of request to the Portuguese, covering 41 priority areas and including 287 separate requests.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-police-hunt-3273735#ixzz2wjs1odwO
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