Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..

[Mr Gray]

your theory makes a lot of suppositions...

And the abduction theory does not?

has no evidence to support it

And the abduction theory has?

abductions have happened ...what you are describing never has and probably never will

[Wonderfulspam]

abductions have happened ...what you are describing never has and probably never will

Or already is.

[Mr Gray]

Or already is.

just pointing out that abduction is ruled out by many for being to unlikely but you post a scenario that is more unlikely...but its up to you...at least you have proposed something

[Wonderfulspam]

just pointing out that abduction is ruled out by many for being to unlikely but you post a scenario that is more unlikely...but its up to you...at least you have proposed something

but you post a scenario that is more unlikely...

Because abductions happen but deaths don't?

I'm pretty sure more people have died than have been abducted from their beds.

[ferryman]

but you post a scenario that is more unlikely...

Because abductions happen but deaths don't?

I'm pretty sure more people have died than have been abducted from their beds.

Making the point that statistics tell you nothing.

There's only one instance of where a child was abducted from the ground-floor flat of a bath while the whole family was at home

But it happened.

And Peter Voisey is behind bars, serving time for that crime.

[Redblossom]

Making the point that statistics tell you nothing.

There's only one instance of where a child was abducted from the ground-floor flat of a bath while the whole family was at home

But it happened.

And Peter Voisey is behind bars, serving time for that crime.

Why compartmentalise statistics even further than they have to be....abducted from their own home should suffice.......and its a fact that more chldren have fatal accidents in the home  than are abducted from there....

Ps I didnt know baths had their own floors!


 

[ferryman]

Why compartmentalise statistics even further than they have to be....abducted from their own home should suffice.......and its a fact that more chldren have fatal accidents in the home  than are abducted from there....

Ps I didnt know baths had their own floors!


 

Carry on mocking at the expense of victims, if that's what rocks your boat ...

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/local-news/crimes-shocked-tyneside-peter-voisey-1350832

[Redblossom]

Carry on mocking at the expense of victims, if that's what rocks your boat ...

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/local-news/crimes-shocked-tyneside-peter-voisey-1350832

Silly knee jerk drama queen reaction...annoyed at my pointng out your backward text (mocking YOU and not any victim and it was only humorous) and not answering the main point...yawn.....emotional blackmail and outfarming guilt never gets you anywhere....

I suppose accusing martin grime of doctoring his cv to get more business isnt mocking the victims whose remains and or demise the dog found! and gave closure to their families!

[Redblossom]

maddie was seen by several people on the 3rd

Who?

There are two nannies who say they saw her on the 3rd, one briefly during the day, Charlotte Pennington both  in her police statement and on a tv documentary, the other was her main carer Cat Baker, there is a also cook and another tapas bar employee who said they saw her but their accounts are not so clear/reliable one of them retracted his statement I think and said he couldnt be sure...i dont  personally put much credence in the died a day before/two days before/more or some theorists...its stretching it?..anyway those are the independent witnesses....as for the tapas 7 apart from David Payne I dont think anyone saw her on the Thursday really....a couple of accounts saying they did dont match actual events and contradict other tapas group statements....funny one, but I have no reason to disbelieve the nannies

[AnneGuedes]

There are two nannies who say they saw her on the 3rd, one briefly during the day, Charlotte Pennington both  in her police statement and on a tv documentary, the other was her main carer Cat Baker, there is a also cook and another tapas bar employee who said they saw her but their accounts are not so clear/reliable one of them retracted his statement I think and said he couldnt be sure...i dont  personally put much credence in the died a day before/two days before/more or some theorists...its stretching it?..anyway those are the independent witnesses....as for the tapas 7 apart from David Payne I dont think anyone saw her on the Thursday really....a couple of accounts saying they did dont match actual events and contradict other tapas group statements....funny one, but I have no reason to disbelieve the nannies

There's also BOD's all pink, blond and beautiful, that says it all.

[ferryman]

Good grief!

Catriana Baker took Madeline down to to the beach on the Thursday ...

[Carana]

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..

To take an extreme example, as someone pointed out somewhere or other, what were the statistics that the Twin Towers would have been hit by two commercial flights deliberately flown into them?

[Sherlock Holmes]

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..

To take an extreme example, as someone pointed out somewhere or other, what were the statistics that the Twin Towers would have been hit by two commercial flights deliberately flown into them?

This is my view too, Carana.

We can talk endlessly about how likely an abduction was but the reality is that Madeleine, sadly, has vanished off the face of the earth. That is an exceptionally unlikely event yet undeniably it has taken place.

Therefore the question of doubting an abduction on the grounds of unlikelihood is moot.

[Mr Gray]

This is my view too, Carana.

We can talk endlessly about how likely an abduction was but the reality is that Madeleine, sadly, has vanished off the face of the earth. That is an exceptionally unlikely event yet undeniably it has taken place.

Therefore the question of doubting an abduction on the grounds of unlikelihood is moot.

Of course it is. it is highly likely Maddie was abducted...either from the appt or outside the appt if she managed to get out

[icabodcrane]

This is my view too, Carana.

We can talk endlessly about how likely an abduction was but the reality is that Madeleine, sadly, has vanished off the face of the earth. That is an exceptionally unlikely event yet undeniably it has taken place.

Therefore the question of doubting an abduction on the grounds of unlikelihood is moot.

We are discussing statisical likelihood 

A child was reported missing by her parents,  and never seen alive again

If statistics suggest that parental involvement in the disappearance is more likely than abduction then we must accept that

That does not mean that Madeleine is not likely to have been abducted  ...  just that statistically the likelihood is not high