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Redblossom

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Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #930 on: January 31, 2014, 10:21:53 PM »
Would you like any more straws to clutch at?


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lots

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #931 on: January 31, 2014, 10:25:20 PM »
dont need them... id bet my house those statements are full of translation errors

Why don't you point them out?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Air Con

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #932 on: January 31, 2014, 10:26:23 PM »
dont need them... id bet my house those statements are full of translation errors

Brave statement to make.

How much is it worth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #933 on: January 31, 2014, 10:28:49 PM »
Brave statement to make.

How much is it worth?

A lot

Offline Air Con

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #934 on: January 31, 2014, 10:34:53 PM »
A lot

So you're prepared to bet your house which is worth "a lot" that there may be translation errors, no matter how minor, in the statements?

You'll lose your house. Of course there'll be minor translation errors.

Or, are you saying you'll only bet your house on major translation errors that have a major impact on the case?
If so, to save your house can you point them out.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #935 on: January 31, 2014, 10:39:23 PM »
So you're prepared to bet your house which is worth "a lot" that there may be translation errors, no matter how minor, in the statements?

You'll lose your house. Of course there'll be minor translation errors.

Or, are you saying you'll only bet your house on major translation errors that have a major impact on the case?
If so, to save your house can you point them out.

depends what you mean by major and minor...I remember gerry saying there were errors which he had to correct..the mccanns had no way of knowing what was written down in portuguese

Redblossom

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Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #936 on: January 31, 2014, 10:47:04 PM »
Why don't you point them out?

You only need to read first and second statements of GM

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CASE_FILES_INDEX.htm

And then go on to the others...all changed and or enhanced

and absolutely nothing to do with translatiin errors"

Then read the joint tapas group statement of 10 may for both errors and massive embellishments and departures from first statements as well as confirmations of certain things since denied!
Oh and all given in english...and spot the differences!
Eta lnk


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_3_MAY_07.htm

Read all digest and see

last link is typed statement by the group in english

All their statements read back to them  in english and signed, no translation errors!!!

No wonder the PJ raised their bloody eyebrows!!!

If anyone has a hernia  about these truths I can start a thread in the moring to make it worse if you like, or better lol


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Offline Air Con

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #937 on: January 31, 2014, 10:58:09 PM »
So you'd bet your house that there were translation errors.

You then prove that there were translation errors.

One of us has lost the plot, and possibly their house.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #938 on: January 31, 2014, 11:02:14 PM »
So you'd bet your house that there were translation errors.

You then prove that there were translation errors.

One of us has lost the plot, and possibly their house.

im 100% sure there would be translation errors...gerry confirmed it as i recall.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #939 on: January 31, 2014, 11:05:08 PM »
you do understand that the translation you have read online is unofficial

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #940 on: January 31, 2014, 11:09:46 PM »
That's connected to the daily routine change at 6.30-7pm. She was moved as soon as everyone arrived at the tapas bar at 9pm but due to time constraint she wasn't moved too far away. The second unsuspected move was simply to move her further away from the crime scene and to somewhere safe where she was less likely to be found and this is what happened.

What do you mean by 'time constraint', pathfinder? Surely if a body were being moved, the person alerting everyone to the disappearance would wait until the time was right for them.

Normally T9 were dining until much later in the evening than when they were alerted to Madeleine's disappearance that night. The person concealing her would have had plenty more time if they had chosen.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #941 on: February 01, 2014, 09:05:34 AM »
What do you mean by 'time constraint', pathfinder? Surely if a body were being moved, the person alerting everyone to the disappearance would wait until the time was right for them.

Normally T9 were dining until much later in the evening than when they were alerted to Madeleine's disappearance that night. The person concealing her would have had plenty more time if they had chosen.

The most important defence in any crime is having a good alibi.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline jassi

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #942 on: February 01, 2014, 09:16:25 AM »
What do you mean by 'time constraint', pathfinder? Surely if a body were being moved, the person alerting everyone to the disappearance would wait until the time was right for them.

Normally T9 were dining until much later in the evening than when they were alerted to Madeleine's disappearance that night. The person concealing her would have had plenty more time if they had chosen.

Perhaps the deed had to be done while there were still enough people around to allow some confusion to aid deception.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #943 on: February 01, 2014, 10:40:03 AM »
I still maintain that 90 mins is not long enough for Maddie to wake up ,...have a fatal accident...which is nigh impossible...be discovered...a plan hatched and the body taken away...totally and utterly ridiculous and is probably why SY are not bothering with such a stupid theory

Offline j.rob

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #944 on: February 01, 2014, 11:35:03 AM »
j.rob

How you can attempt to undermine such a highly educated and knowledgeable man as davel when you have repeatedly shown a complete lack of understanding of the case, is beyond me.  In some of your posts, you very obviously haven't even read the statements ... yet you continue to say things that are totally wrong as tho they written in stone.

If you cant be bothered to read the statements at least have the grace to put "I believe" or "possibly". 

I have read a great many statements. Perhaps it is you who have not.  You seem to substitute personal attack for debate.

Some people on this forum do struggle with statistics. But you cannot deny that there is a 100% possibility of death at some stage or another.

There is a growing body of opinion that believe the McCanns know what happened to their daughter and have strung along a gullible public for a long time. My mind was open at the beginning. I believed their story. However, the more I read the PJ files, the less I believe the McCann's version of events.

Their media interviews are also dripping with clues that they are most certainly not the main victims in all this.
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