Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..

[Mr Gray]

Ok, fine, say that's actually true (though it's not) how is that evidence of a stranger abduction and not, say, a staged abduction to cover up the death of a child left alone?

It is not evidence of abduction at all! Even though I left out that there was no sign of forced shutters!

I think we have already established the chances of Maddie dying in the apartment are non existent...what could she have died from?

[Mr Gray]

What a silly thing to say 

Either there is phsysical /forensic evidence that the shutter were  'forced up from the outside'  or there is not 

In this case there was  not

A hundred 'witnesses'  could  'say'  the shutter was forced from the outside and it would matter not a jot  unless there was physical evidence to support the claim 

(  who is this  'witness' who said the shutters were forced from the outside anyway  ?  )

Another one who doesn't understand the meaning of the word evidence

[Wonderfulspam]

I think we have already established the chances of Maddie dying in the apartment are non existent...what could she have died from?

Loneliness.

[Mr Gray]

Rubbish.

Social workers would have had a field-day with this case in England. It is completely irresponsible to leave children of that age alone at night. There was also no excuse as there was a free evening creche and babysitting at very reasonable cost.

Kate even admits that Madeleine cried one night and asked why they didn't come.

There are massive child protection issues here. And that is just the very tip of the most enormous iceberg.

And you know it. So do they. So does everyone, actually.

That's why this case is so extraordinary.

 More absolute bollocks  ...as red would say...

We have seen from the recent case in Scotland where there appears to have been massive neglect resulting in the death of a child that social workers did sweet FA

[j.rob]

I think we have already established the chances of Maddie dying in the apartment are non existent...what could she have died from?

You are kidding, right? The chances of a person dying are non-existent?

That is most definitely a lie!! And I have evidence to prove it! 

[Redblossom]

What a silly thing to say 

Either there is phsysical /forensic evidence that the shutter were  'forced up from the outside'  or there is not 

In this case there was  not

A hundred 'witnesses'  could  'say'  the shutter was forced from the outside and it would matter not a jot  unless there was physical evidence to support the claim 

(  who is this  'witness' who said the shutters were forced from the outside anyway  ?  )

No witnesses whatsoever, no physical evidence, just hearsay

[Mr Gray]

You are kidding, right? The chances of a person dying are non-existent?

That is most definitely a lie!! And I have evidence to prove it! 

wheres the evidence...before you show it most deaths involve fires and stairs...there were none in the appt

[j.rob]

Davel, please provide evidence that the chances of a person dying are non-existent.

Should be interesting reading, if a little short.

And, yes, children and toddlers can die too....and sometimes even in an apartment. Please provide evidence that the chances of a young child left alone in an apartment dying are non-existent.

You seem to like statistics.

[Redblossom]

You are kidding, right? The chances of a person dying are non-existent?

That is most definitely a lie!! And I have evidence to prove it! 

Pathetic argument as scores and scores of children die in their own homes yearly

[Mr Gray]

No witnesses whatsoever, no physical evidence, just hearsay

You need to look up the definition of hearsay...you are speaking...in your words ...utter bollocks

[Mr Gray]

Davel, please provide evidence that the chances of a person dying are non-existent.

Should be interesting reading, if a little short.

And, yes, children and toddlers can die too....and sometimes even in an apartment. Please provide evidence that the chances of a young child left alone in an apartment dying are non-existent.

You seem to like statistics.

 you said you have the evidence to prove me wrong...you obviously have had second thoughts

[Mr Gray]

You are kidding, right? The chances of a person dying are non-existent?

That is most definitely a lie!! And I have evidence to prove it!

 I think as you have accused me of lying you should produce your evidence

[Mr Gray]

Pathetic argument as scores and scores of children die in their own homes yearly

 you have to read the whole paper not just the first paragraph...scores of children die in accidents  true...fires are probably the main cause followed by falls down stairs...even then death is not always instant but later in hospital

[Mr Gray]

I also seem to remember this case at one point being described as a professional abduction. Just goes to show how some people can be so very wrong about abduction theories.

 If you look at my posts on the matter you will note I was never taken in

[stephen25000]

oh dear...cant you understand english

Not yours, as it is invariably pure gibberish. 

Meanwhile merely because kate and gerry state something, does not make it true.

Even in your little world.