Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..

[Mr Gray]

No his own daughter was missing not a little girl. My daughter/Madeleine has gone missing!

you want to look at every word...dissect it and find fault...theres no fault here for a normal person but you imagine you can find it...it says more about you than gerry

[Sherlock Holmes]

Perhaps the deed had to be done while there were still enough people around to allow some confusion to aid deception.

That does make sense, but at the same time, more people being alerted to the fact of the disappearance means more people searching - and a higher risk of discovery.

[jassi]

That does make sense, but at the same time, more people being alerted to the fact of the disappearance means more people searching - and a higher risk of discovery.

That's true, but if you were a bit ahead of the game - ie others were still focused close to the resort & pool, for example, that would permit you to range further afield with your burden, confident that news of a missing child was behind you, rather than ahead.

[Sherlock Holmes]

So you think that Gerry decided to move her twice at a time when the pubs and shops were still open, although he could have no idea   (because he couldn't see into the future)   how many tourists/locals were coming and going  from restaurants/bars - or how many could be sitting on their balconies or simply out for a stroll  - because IHO that was a much safer bet to avoid being  ''caught in the act'' than waiting until the middle of the night when everything was closed and most people would be fast asleep... presumably including the Smith family.

Strange logic indeed IMO. 

And how did he know beforehand about the unfindable place he eventually took her to?   And how did he know the police would not arrive until 11 o'clock?  How could he be sure that someone outside the group  had not taken it upon themselves to ring the police as soon as the alarm was raised and that the police could be there in minutes - long before he got back?        And when did he change back into the clothing he wore at the Tapas Bar?  - Was it in a phone box, because IMO he would have to be Superman with a crystal ball to know and do all that? 

Sorry - but where is the common sense?

All important points, Benice.

How could someone 'planning' something like this control all these factors? Control not just what T9 but many other people were doing. Anyone in the resort could have taken it upon themselves, for example, to call police at any time.

Just too many variables.

[jassi]

All important points, Benice.

How could someone 'planning' something like this control all these factors? Control not just what T9 but many other people were doing. Anyone in the resort could have taken it upon themselves, for example, to call police at any time.

Just too many variables.

There may have been no alternative - desperate times desperate measures.

[pathfinder73]

All important points, Benice.

How could someone 'planning' something like this control all these factors? Control not just what T9 but many other people were doing. Anyone in the resort could have taken it upon themselves, for example, to call police at any time.

Just too many variables.

Smithman wasn't going near any shops or pubs. He was going to a place that was quiet in the dark. As soon as everyone is accounted for at the table i.e. nobody is leaving the table now as they are all ordering their food. Smithman makes his move.

[Mr Gray]

There may have been no alternative - desperate times desperate measures.

Your ideas make absolute no sense...why should the Mccanns cover up an accident...

They would not have been struck off the medical register...they wouldn't have been prosecuted...

you now think that they would commit a serious crime...covering up  a death...pervert the course of justice..start a fraudulent fund...all these would carry long prison sentences and finish their careers...your ideas become more and more ridiculous

[stephen25000]

Your ideas make absolute no sense...why should the Mccanns cover up an accident...

They would not have been struck off the medical register...they wouldn't have been prosecuted...

you now think that they would commit a serious crime...covering up  a death...pervert the course of justice..start a fraudulent fund...all these would carry long prison sentences and finish their careers...your ideas become more and more ridiculous

Never heard of the CRB check ???

[Mr Gray]

Never heard of the CRB check ???

They aren't called CRB checks anymore...so I know more than you..try google

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Smithman wasn't going near any shops or pubs. He was going to a place that was quiet in the dark. As soon as everyone is accounted for at the table i.e. nobody is leaving the table now as they are all ordering their food. Smithman makes his move.

Smithman was actually perilously close to one of the social hubs - if not the social hub-  of Praia da Luz. At the end of Rua da Escola was Rua 25 de Abril, where there were many bars and restaurants, including the bar from which the Smiths were coming.

He was making for the beach, yes - so the idea goes - but in order to get there he had to cross Rua 25 de Abril. A great risk. Indeed it was his perambulations in that area to which the Smiths were witness. Had they not been in this social area and seen him, we may never have known of his existence.

[stephen25000]

They aren't called CRB checks anymore...so I know more than you..try google

 

So DBS.

Does that make you feel better ?

Meanwhile the point being, if Madeleine has died as many believe, and this was proved, and of course within the circumstances of how she was left, do you seriously believe this pair would be allowed to work with young children or vulnerable adults ?

[ferryman]

Your ideas make absolute no sense...why should the Mccanns cover up an accident...

They would not have been struck off the medical register...they wouldn't have been prosecuted...

you now think that they would commit a serious crime...covering up  a death...pervert the course of justice..start a fraudulent fund...all these would carry long prison sentences and finish their careers...your ideas become more and more ridiculous

Minor quibble.

They would have been struck off the medical register (I'm unsure whether Kate's still on) and prosecuted.

Otherwise bang-on right ...

[Sherlock Holmes]

Your ideas make absolute no sense...why should the Mccanns cover up an accident...

They would not have been struck off the medical register...they wouldn't have been prosecuted...

you now think that they would commit a serious crime...covering up  a death...pervert the course of justice..start a fraudulent fund...all these would carry long prison sentences and finish their careers...your ideas become more and more ridiculous

Sums up one of the main sets of reasons why the McCanns are unlikely to be guilty. A cover-up of this kind just doesn't make any sense.

[stephen25000]

Minor quibble.

They would have been struck off the medical register (I'm unsure whether Kate's still on) and prosecuted.

Otherwise bang-on right ...

Two words,

SELF PRESERVATION. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Two words,

SELF PRESERVATION. 

It is exactly a sense of self preservation that would prevent a person from carrying out the things the McCanns have carried out since Madeleine's disappearance, were they to have been carried out for the purpose of defrauding people.

It would have been too much of a risk not only to their reputations and careers - but to their entire liberty.