Author Topic: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?  (Read 45792 times)

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Redblossom

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2014, 07:42:20 PM »
That's my opinion.

But I also believe that their campaigning contains elements that are counterproductive to that end.

Its not just their campaigning its their behaviour words and actions from 2007 to date.....do you really believe their only motive was searching for their lost child? So many of their actions contradict that?..not least the fact they never publicised the smith efits ever! Why didnt they

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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2014, 07:44:04 PM »
Its not just their campaigning its their behaviour words and actions from 2007 to date.....

Yes I would include that in the broad sweep of the campaign. 'We have done nothing wrong' etc. (Not exactly a new point, I know).

Redblossom

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2014, 07:46:48 PM »
Yes I would include that in the broad sweep of the campaign. 'We have done nothing wrong' etc. (Not exactly a new point, I know).
No no no SH...it wasnt just that........

CPN

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2014, 07:47:02 PM »
Thanks for that, CPN!

One wonders when this venture will end.....

I quoted it some time back, SH, and someone answered with another very appropriate quote (which I meant to commit to memory but failed!)

It is just that it is increasingly difficult to go back on something the longer it goes on... And increasingly difficult to change a story as time progresses

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2014, 07:49:49 PM »
We all know what your motives are eleanor....demonisng  people who dare to think  the mccanns mght have  been involved and daring to thnk for themselves, grand motive there......not....brass necks? Oh yes


SH, re your OP, the mccanns are not robots...,they act on their own accord....there is no way they were ever only  acting on any advice and nothing else.....they unleashed the media...they couldnt unleash them ever.....a trap of their own making

And isn't this not a big part of the element of tragedy in this case?  The fact that not only have they lost their daughter (not their fault, IMO), but that they are now suffering from by being caught up in a complex web largely of their own devising. Victims of an abductor (IMO) and also of their own imperfect choices.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2014, 07:50:19 PM »
No no no SH...it wasnt just that........

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AnneGuedes

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2014, 07:50:25 PM »
But I also believe that their campaigning contains elements that are counterproductive to that end.
I guess that those elements are the result of dubious advise, though their lawyers and PRs are the best (not the PIs however) and money not a problem.
What about the elements of their campaigns that you don't consider counterproductive ? How would you qualify them ?

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2014, 07:50:36 PM »
That's my opinion.

But I also believe that their campaigning contains elements that are counterproductive to that end.

Has anyone written a Handbook on how to find your abducted daughter?

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2014, 07:54:37 PM »
No no no SH...it wasnt just that........

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AnneGuedes

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2014, 07:54:46 PM »
Victims of an abductor (IMO) and also of their own imperfect choices.
You must be kidding, SH.
Madeleine is the only victim and it has not (yet) been established of whom.
Would you call the jemmied shutter/window untruth an "imperfect choice" ? And would you call the open shutter/window version for the PJ a "perfect choice" ?

Redblossom

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2014, 07:55:43 PM »
And isn't this not a big part of the element of tragedy in this case?  The fact that not only have they lost their daughter (not their fault, IMO), but that they are now suffering from by being caught up in a complex web largely of their own devising. Victims of an abductor (IMO) and also of their own imperfect choices.

imperfect choices? Like chosing to leave their three infants alone night after night, like unlucky one was alledgedly abducted, like unlucky the cadaver dog signalled only in their place, like unlucky some PIs stole half a million quid off them, like unlucky no one was looking for madeleine not police not no one.....etc etc like unlucky in so many things, come on......are they cursed or something?

AnneGuedes

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2014, 07:58:28 PM »
I quoted it some time back, SH, and someone answered with another very appropriate quote (which I meant to commit to memory but failed!)

It is just that it is increasingly difficult to go back on something the longer it goes on... And increasingly difficult to change a story as time progresses
This is what the AG foresaw and why he requested a reconstruction.

CPN

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2014, 07:58:37 PM »
imperfect choices? Like chosing to leave their three infants alone night after night, like unlucky one was alledgedly abducted, like unlucky the cadaver dog signalled only in their place, like unlucky some PIs stole half a million quid off them, like unlucky no one was looking for madeleine not police not no one.....etc etc like unlucky in so many things, come on......are they cursed or something?

like forgetting whether or not they left the door unlocked...

CPN

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2014, 08:01:16 PM »
This is where your lack of knowledge of the nuances of the English Language fails you.

Eleanor, I do not like getting involved in arguments with individuals, but I really do think you are repeatedly unpleasant to Anne in a totally unnecessary way.  She does pretty well, if English is not her first language, IMO

Redblossom

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Re: The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2014, 08:05:07 PM »
like forgetting whether or not they left the door unlocked...

Of course! You leave your three babies alone go out and just dont know if you locked the door or not!!!!


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They must  thnk people are THICK..or they are

So much for some say they are highly intellgent....what a joke......


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