The Find Madeleine Campaign. Controlled Strategy or Runaway Tiger?

[Sherlock Holmes]

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[Mr Gray]

So...controlled strategy or runaway tiger.......I think its pretty controlled...particularly now as SY have said the McCanns are not suspects

[Mr Gray]

Davel is one of the rudest unreasonable sanctimonious people on this forum...wouldnt worry about him, discredited fantasist who is never ever wrong abut anythng and for hm  everyne else is stupid if they dont  agree wth him....

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[Angelo222]

So...controlled strategy or runaway tiger.......I think its pretty controlled...particularly now as SY have said the McCanns are not suspects

Where your constant mention of this falls down Dave is that the McCanns might not be considered suspects at this moment in time but we have seen from history that this can change very quickly.

As it stands they are both guilty of having shown really poor judgement when it came to the protection of their three young children.  Who knows what might follow if a body is found.

[Mr Gray]

Where your constant mention of this falls down Dave is that the McCanns might not be considered suspects at this moment in time but we have seen from history that this can change very quickly.

As it stands they are both guilty of having shown really poor judgement when it came to the protection of their three young children.  Who knows what might follow if a body is found.

 posters have been saying the same as this for 5 years. My opinion is that if evidence hasn't been found yet to show the McCanns guilt then it never will be. Combined with the actions of the McCanns I just cant see any way they are guilty of any involvement in Maddies disappearance

[Angelo222]

posters have been saying the same as this for 5 years. My opinion is that if evidence hasn't been found yet to show the McCanns guilt then it never will be. Combined with the actions of the McCanns I just cant see any way they are guilty of any involvement in Maddies disappearance

If a body turns up in PdL some of these days you might just have to review that comment Dave.  As many people have found to their cost there is no time limit on justice!!

[sadie]

imperfect choices? Like chosing to leave their three infants alone night after night, like unlucky one was alledgedly abducted, like unlucky the cadaver dog signalled only in their place, like unlucky some PIs stole half a million quid off them, like unlucky no one was looking for madeleine not police not no one.....etc etc like unlucky in so many things, come on......are they cursed or something?

Fifty metres away Red and almost like being in their back garden.  Checking every half hour

At least they are not drunk in cjarge of them as Amaral was with his daughter we hear ... and also someone on here, who we are not allowed to name

Drunk in charge of her/ his little one/s too.  Much more dangerous imo

[CPN]

Fifty metres away Red and almost like being in their back garden.  Checking every half hour

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Out of sight and hearing, that is the crux.  And nothing like a back garden, with doors leading onto the street unlocked etc.  And total omission of the damages to young children of being left alone, nothing to do with abduction.   

And the fact that excuses are still made shows that lessons have not been learned

[CPN]

Dave keeps his calm in a remarkable way, when you all gang up on him.  I know what that is like, it happened to me for months.

He has an empathy that so many on here are completely without + belief in Justice and fair play + sound knowledge of the case.


His knowledge and intellect shine thru in a way that many of you are jealous of

Intellect?  You bet.  A whole wadge of top quality qualifications.  But all the best brains get beaten out of here , dont they ?   

How many of you can earn £1000 for a days work?

Intellect?  Top quality qualifications?  Maybe.  But what do you know of the qualifications of other posters here?
Perhaps you need to read (or re-read) the thread to see who started the rudeness.

[sadie]

If a body turns up in PdL some of these days you might just have to review that comment Dave.  As many people have found to their cost there is no time limit on justice!!

The operative word there is * IF * Angelo

There are strong pointers, that I cannot share, that Madeleine left PdL alive ... and there were some indicators that she still was alive 2 years ago ... nothing is sure, but there are  indicators.   Sadly I cant share that either


I am totally prepared to be found wrong, but SY have listened and are interested in the same man.  Maybe others too, of course.

[sadie]

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Out of sight and hearing, that is the crux.  And nothing like a back garden, with doors leading onto the street unlocked etc.  And total omission of the damages to young children of being left alone, nothing to do with abduction.   

And the fact that excuses are still made shows that lessons have not been learned

I disagree about it not being like a back garden.  Have you been and seen CPN ?

I know of many houses and cottages that have 50+ metre back gardens, with direct back or side door access to the street.

Many peeps live in towns where houses are packed and it would be unusual to find the 50 metre and side access in them ... but in the Country such situations and with cottages right on the street are not in the least rare.

[Angelo222]

The operative word there is * IF * Angelo

There are strong pointers, that I cannot share, that Madeleine left PdL alive ... and there were some indicators that she still was alive 2 years ago ... nothing is sure, but there are  indicators.   Sadly I cant share that either


I am totally prepared to be found wrong, but SY have listened and are interested in the same man.  Maybe others too, of course.

Now I know you are posting nonsense Sadie.  The police don't even know what happened to Madeleine so it is unlikely you do.  They don't even know what the crime was or who may or may not have been involved.  They don't even know for sure what part if any the parents played in it all.  The disappearance of Madeleine McCann is as much a mystery today as it was 6 years ago.

There are no indicators as you like to suggest Sadie, just lies, convoluted statements and twisted stories.

[Angelo222]

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Out of sight and hearing, that is the crux.  And nothing like a back garden, with doors leading onto the street unlocked etc.  And total omission of the damages to young children of being left alone, nothing to do with abduction.   

And the fact that excuses are still made shows that lessons have not been learned

I tend to agree CPN, it might have been 50 metres as the crow flies from the patio of 5a to the tapas tent but it might as well have been 500 metres.  In the darkness, in a noisy restaurant tent, the parents hadn't a hope in hell of hearing or seeing those children had they been in peril.  Stating otherwise is sheer hypocrisy.

[Benice]

Well, maybe they need to see another psychologist.  Because I really think this refusal to acknowledge any fault or responsibility has taken away a lot of sympathy for them from many people

Quote from Kates book.  (Again)

.......however unwittingly we'd given this predator an opportunity..  We had not been there for Madeleine. And, as I've said before and will say again, our guilt over that is a heavv cross we will bear for the rest of our lives.
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IMO those are not the words of someone who feels they bear no responsibility or fault. 

I posted the above quote the last time you made a similar comment and you ignored it.   If you don't think it's an expression of guilt - then what do you think it is?

I have no problem with people who criticise the McCann's child checking arrangements, but I do have a problem with folk who appear to believe that those arrangements justify the horrific actions of the perpetrator -  whose crime the McCanns have admitted they themselves enabled and for which they will carry the guilt for the rest of their lives. 

Your repeated claim that the McCanns have refused to acknowledge any fault or responsiblity is wrong IMO.    What more do you want - sackcloth and ashes?

[sadie]

Now I know you are posting nonsense Sadie.  The police don't even know what happened to Madeleine so it is unlikely you do.  They don't even know what the crime was or who may or may not have been involved.  They don't even know for sure what part if any the parents played in it all.  The disappearance of Madeleine McCann is as much a mystery today as it was 6 years ago.

There are no indicators as you like to suggest Sadie, just lies, convoluted statements and twisted stories.

I am not a liar.

They are considering the same person that I am Angelo.  Maybe others too.

There are dozens of indicators Angelo, but you have to find the key, which I was lucky enough to do.

[b]I always know that I could be wrong, but too many co-incidences and pointers imo ... and I do know SY are looking at the same person [/b]

As I have said before this guy is VERY VERY elite and also clever and VERY rich.  A global man who speaks several languages like a native.  It is my belief that he is backed by a whiter than white organisation of mega import globally. 

That is all I am saying.


I hope you have to eat your words Angelo, but I fear this guy and his backing organisation are untouchable, so never charged.

If I am right, Angelo, I hope you will be gentleman enough to apologise