Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?

[jassi]

Ahh yes - it could have been Part 143, Subsection 24b subtitled  ..'Wot to say about the position of the door' in the  ''Cunning Plan''  devised by the McCanns and their friends to pull the wool over the eyes of the PJ.

I'd love someone to explain WHEN and WHERE they all sat down to put this intricate, convoluted plan together - as it seems to me more planning would be required for this 'cover-story'  - than went into the Royal Wedding.

No intricate planning. It COULD have been made 'on the hoof' and changed as various facts came to light. Hence the ever changing details in the various statements.

[Benice]

Why do you permanently insist that any death & concealment scenario has to involve the entire holiday group?
 It doesn't.

As far as I'm concerned the only viable plan would involve NO-ONE except the McCanns - because it's obvious it would be far easier and far safer to dispose of their daughters' body during the night and on their own  - without even telling anyone else - let alone getting them to tell numerous huge lies and make untrue claims on their behalf about what happened that night. 

The present different 'scenarios' being suggested would of necessity require everyone else being 'in the know' to some degree.     However, it would also mean that all nine of them were severely mentally impaired - which is  another reason why I believe Madeleine was abducted and no lies were told.    But - as I've said before - that doesn't mean that everything they said was accurate - because memories are notoriously unreliable.   Something which experienced policemen know all about and so would expect discrepancies to occur.





   

[Wonderfulspam]

As far as I'm concerned the only viable plan would involve NO-ONE except the McCanns - because it's obvious it would be far easier and far safer to dispose of their daughters' body during the night and on their own  - without even telling anyone else - let alone getting them to tell numerous huge lies and make untrue claims on their behalf about what happened that night. 

The present different 'scenarios' being suggested would of necessity require everyone else being 'in the know' to some degree.     However, it would also mean that all nine of them were severely mentally impaired - which is  another reason why I believe Madeleine was abducted and no lies were told.    But - as I've said before - that doesn't mean that everything they said was accurate - because memories are notoriously unreliable.   Something which experienced policemen know all about and so would expect discrepancies to occur.





   

The present different 'scenarios' being suggested


Where?   Which scenarios?   By whom?

[pathfinder73]

No intricate planning. It COULD have been made 'on the hoof' and changed as various facts came to light. Hence the ever changing details in the various statements.

Or it could be so simple that one check wasn't part of the original plan and was unforeseen which put a major spanner in the works. If Madeleine was found gone at 9.30 everything would've connected i.e. an abductor was hiding on Gerry's check and after he left she was moved from the apartment.

[slartibartfast]

It doesn't have to involve them all, but it has to have happened right under their noses, and they all have to have either been ignorant of it or pretended to be, and continue to pretend to be.

Deception, distraction.

I agree that if the checking regime wasn't as intensive as represented in the colouring book, then when Madeleine was reported missing the other members of the group would start to worry about the perception and possible PT law implications of their child care arrangements. As most of the group were employed in large organisations whose cultures tend to drive an instinctive CYA approach, then there first reaction would be to fill in the gaps.

If that had been done then they would be involved and not keen on breaking ranks.

[jassi]

I agree that if the checking regime wasn't as intensive as represented in the colouring book, then when Madeleine was reported missing the other members of the group would start to worry about the perception and possible PT law implications of their child care arrangements. As most of the group were employed in large organisations whose cultures tend to drive an instinctive CYA approach, then there first reaction would be to fill in the gaps.

If that had been done then they would be involved and not keen on breaking ranks.

Ha Ha so true.

[sadie]

It doesn't have to involve them all, but it has to have happened right under their noses, and they all have to have either been ignorant of it or pretended to be, and continue to pretend to be.

Deception, distraction.

That is libellous WSpam

[Wonderfulspam]

That is libellous WSpam

Only this part of that quote was mine.

'Deception, distraction.'

[slartibartfast]

Ha Ha so true.

The famous quote...

Nixon aide Jeb Stuart Magruder once stated, “We never considered that there wouldn’t be a coverup.”

[Redblossom]

The famous quote...

Jesus
LOL george bush backwardly reincarnated.....

[pegasus]

If a sleeping person is awakened (by the sound and sight of someone opening their bedroom window from outside) and so runs fast into another room hypothetically might that make falling or having some kind of accident more likely?

[Redblossom]

If a sleeping person is awakened (by the sound and sight of someone opening their bedroom window from outside) and so runs fast into another room hypothetically might that make falling or having some kind of accident more likely?

Yes hypothetically.....but children are clever, they dont panic to the same extent as adults, they know where to hide or go if they sense danger, seldom bashing themselves into a brick wall though er survival instinct is higherly honed as is their instinct and intelligence..talking around four yrs old and above here

[pegasus]

The actress in Verdade film climbs and leans slowly and relaxedly and so in reality does not fall off back of furniture.

[Redblossom]

The actress in Verdade film climbs and leans slowly and relaxedly and so in reality does not fall off back of furniture.

Its an actress, it was a dramatisation, it means little in its minutae....tanner had blonde hair in it...it easnt a iteral reconstruction or literal and definitive in every way

[Luz]

What burglaries?!!!!

There were no burglaries (or home invasions) reported in Praia da Luz in 2007.

I would love to know how the British Press check their sources.