Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?

[Heriberto Janosch]

I am working in another inquiry now. I will be back after SY or PJ give some news.

Heri :)

[Lyall]

I'll take that as a no then

[VIXTE]

Sex offenders when in prison for example don't mix up with the other crowd and they are always look behind their shoulder for some other inmates not to attack them.. there are cases of inmates even killing these offenders..sex offenders are hated, even in prison..
I don't think they started as burglars, they started because they have a psychological problem, a sick urge, twisted mind.. nothing to do with being a thief..

[Wonderfulspam]

Sex offenders when in prison for example don't mix up with the other crowd and they are always look behind their shoulder for some other inmates not to attack them.. there are cases of inmates even killing these offenders..sex offenders are hated, even in prison..
I don't think they started as burglars, they started because they have a psychological problem, a sick urge, twisted mind.. nothing to do with being a thief..

Sex offenders when in prison for example don't mix up with the other crowd and they are always look behind their shoulder for some other inmates not to attack them.. there are cases of inmates even killing these offenders..sex offenders are hated, even in prison..


Is this your own experience of the situation or just something you read?

[VIXTE]

Sex offenders when in prison for example don't mix up with the other crowd and they are always look behind their shoulder for some other inmates not to attack them.. there are cases of inmates even killing these offenders..sex offenders are hated, even in prison..


Is this your own experience of the situation or just something you read?

My experience? In which way? 

I have a friend whose job once was a prison psychologist, the one who decides when the inmates were ready to leave..
That the sex offenders are hated in the UK prisons, this's been well reported and is well known.. Ian Huntley, for example.. has his own cell and was held in a special part of prison, but was still attacked, and his throat was slashed.. the other offender, whose name I don't remember, was killed by one of the inmates.  There are others too.. google is your friend ;)

Example: Joanna Yeate's killer, Vincent Tabak, was moved from his cell due to attack fears..

[Redblossom]

Sex offenders when in prison for example don't mix up with the other crowd and they are always look behind their shoulder for some other inmates not to attack them.. there are cases of inmates even killing these offenders..sex offenders are hated, even in prison..
I don't think they started as burglars, they started because they have a psychological problem, a sick urge, twisted mind.. nothing to do with being a thief..

Whats this got to do with anything

And are you suggesting sexual offenders start off with burglary as some practice then commit the sex crimes later?

Bizarre and the  link between burglars and sexual  offences is what happens in the home they burgle, they rape eg there, they dont abduct

[VIXTE]

Whats this got to do with anything

It is about the claim that the sex offenders were also burglars, which others above are suggesting.

 I am saying the two is not connected.. their motives are different..

Also about the claim that a potential burglar who did the series of burglaries in the Ocean Club is ( by big statistical probability) also a sex offender..

I am saying that a burglar has no reason to take Madeleine.. unless she can recognise him

or if he has already killed her due to panicking.. maybe he was 'stuck in the room'.. and not sure if anyone else was in the apartment..
And when Matthew Oldfield turned up for his check the burglar was hiding in the room, and same time holding Madeleine..
From that room he had no ways of knowing it was Matt Oldfield, in his mind it could have been the parents returned.. and if he was holding Madeleine and stopping her scream  this is a panic situation for a burglar..

[Redblossom]

It is about the claim that the sex offenders were also burglars, which others above are suggesting.

 I am saying the two is not connected.. their motives are different..

Also about the claim that a potential burglar who did the series of burglaries in the Ocean Club is ( by big statistical probability) also a sex offender..

I am saying that a burglar has no reason to take Madeleine.. unless she can recognise him

or if he has already killed her due to panicking.. maybe he was 'stuck in the room'.. and not sure if anyone else was in the apartment..
And when Matthew Oldfield turned up for his check the burglar was hiding in the room, and same time holding Madeleine..
From that room he had no ways of knowing it was Matt Oldfield, in his mind it could have been the parents returned.. and if he was holding Madeleine and stopping her scream  this is a panic situation for a burglar..

OK thanks, I obviously misunderstood......sorry...but...I dont buy your theory about burglers in the first place or  they were keeping Maddie muzzled on anyones check! matts account of his check has so many holes in it not sure he ever did one....

[VIXTE]

OK thanks, I obviously misunderstood......sorry...but...I dont buy your theory about burglers in the first place or  they were keeping Maddie muzzled on anyones check! matts account of his check has so many holes in it not sure he ever did one....

Well, the burglaries in the Ocean Club are a fact..

[Redblossom]

Well, the burglaries in the Ocean Club are a fact..

so?

[VIXTE]

so?

So it is a bigger mathematical probability, than any other theory, that a burglar indeed was that night in that room

[jassi]

Well, the burglaries in the Ocean Club are a fact..

Any details of the sort of thing that was taken?

[Redblossom]

So it is a bigger mathematical probability, than any other theory, that a burglar indeed was that night in that room

perhaps, but, and? Ive never heard of a burgler abducting a chld, have you?

[Sherlock Holmes]

Yes I totally agree.

PDL was the place to live with children, it was quiet, and safe. A lot of ex pats live there too, and know everyone. A stranger hanging about end of April would be noted surely.

Why would anyone running a pedophile ring choose a sleepy town like PDL to operate?

Makes no sense, if it doest make sense its usually not true.

Regarding strangers hanging around, several people were seen. Including a man spotted by a young resident who know the terrain well (looking over the wall to 5a).....

[Mr Gray]

So it is a bigger mathematical probability, than any other theory, that a burglar indeed was that night in that room

 when you think about it , a burglary gone wrong is the most probable solution...