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Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2014, 06:02:34 PM »
Any details of the sort of thing that was taken?

A little girl was missing?

Offline jassi

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2014, 06:04:12 PM »
A little girl was missing?


And from  the other burglaries? You did use the plural.
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Redblossom

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2014, 06:04:43 PM »

Regarding strangers hanging around, several people were seen. Including a man spotted by a young resident who know the terrain well (looking over the wall to 5a).....

Perhaps he was admiring the flourished bougainvilla plant? How does anyone deduce anyone is a "stranger" let alone a "suspicious character"

I mean fgs, a man who was seen around flat 5a six months before the mccanns set foot there became  a suspect because the woman noticing him thought  he was suspicious...


See here

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3140.0


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Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2014, 06:07:18 PM »
perhaps, but, and? Ive never heard of a burgler abducting a chld, have you?

Yes, they are cases..

But in this cases it could have been at least two reasons:
1. He had an order for Madeleine
2. He killed her while inside, and had no option but to take her body with him, to hide his DNA, trails etc..

His panic level could be his decision maker and reasoning..

I think this was the theory of the Oporto team.. when looking at 'their suspect'

Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2014, 06:09:31 PM »
Perhaps he was admiring the flourished bougainvilla plant? How does anyone deduce anyone is a "stranger" let alone a "suspicious character"

I mean fgs, a man who was seen around flat 5a six months before the mccanns set foot there became  a suspect because the woman noticing him thought  he was suspicious...

There were previous burglaries in the Ocean Club.. the burglars were operating in the resort.
Nobody is making up this fact.
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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2014, 06:10:14 PM »
IMO this info cannot be applied to a sleepy village in Portugal.

The social factor is more important here.. we are talking about a Mediterranean country with strong traditional and religious bonds.. Minds and motives of criminals are different in different geographical spheres.

I agree, VIXTE, that the social factor is very important here. Have mentioned this a few times in fact.

But Heriberto's point that burglary could mean different things is still with noting IMO.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2014, 06:10:42 PM »
There were previous burglaries in the Ocean Club.. the burglars were operating in the resort.

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Redblossom

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2014, 06:12:17 PM »
There were previous burglaries in the Ocean Club.. the burglars were operating in the resort.

And? You didnt really answer my point......

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2014, 06:14:29 PM »
Perhaps he was admiring the flourished bougainvilla plant? How does anyone deduce anyone is a "stranger" let alone a "suspicious character"

I mean fgs, a man who was seen around flat 5a six months before the mccanns set foot there became  a suspect because the woman noticing him thought  he was suspicious...


See here

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3140.0

I' m talking about the 12 year old girl, resident, who saw a man on two occasions after the McCanns arrive in PdL, including in the afternoon of the disappearance, and who was not reported there since.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2014, 06:16:34 PM »
Thats a point.....and according to heri the abductor  could have picked madeleine up through the windiw when she just walked over......thinking it was her parents

Did her parents contact her via the window often?
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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2014, 06:19:53 PM »
I' m talking about the 12 year old girl, resident, who saw a man on two occasions after the McCanns arrive in PdL, including in the afternoon of the disappearance, and who was not reported there since.

I know about  tamsin silences statement...whats  the big deal about it? Did she know everyone who was there and who should havebeen and who shouldnt  have been?

Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2014, 06:25:00 PM »
Which cases?

Well, I am not going to spend my day proving these cases to you.. but if you want to find them you can find them.. that is all I have to say..

Children are taken to order.. this guy, although a burglar, could've had an order for Madeleine. This is nothing that is impossible to happen. He could have come for Madeleine for a reason to sell her.

It could also have been a messed up case of a burglary gone wrong..

Is this hard to understand?

Offline jassi

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2014, 06:27:10 PM »
Well, I am not going to spend my day proving these cases to you.. but if you want to find them you can find them.. that is all I have to say..

Children are taken to order.. this guy, although a burglar, could've had an order for Madeleine. This is nothing that is impossible to happen. He could have come for Madeleine for a reason to sell her.

It could also have been a messed up case of a burglary gone wrong..

Is this hard to understand?

Not difficult to understand, just difficult to believe.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Redblossom

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2014, 06:29:59 PM »
Well, I am not going to spend my day proving these cases to you.. but if you want to find them you can find them.. that is all I have to say..

Children are taken to order.. this guy, although a burglar, could've had an order for Madeleine. This is nothing that is impossible to happen. He could have come for Madeleine for a reason to sell her.

It could also have been a messed up case of a burglary gone wrong..

Is this hard to understand?

yea it is...burglars take tvs computers passports money etc  and the like, not children...you are the one  that said there are cases of burglars abducting chidren...you have to back this up as you claimed it...no use saying you cant be  bothered...im sure many people on this board are interested if this is a fact or plain nonsense, YOUR CALL
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Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2014, 08:13:31 PM »
yea it is...burglars take tvs computers passports money etc  and the like, not children...you are the one  that said there are cases of burglars abducting chidren...you have to back this up as you claimed it...no use saying you cant be  bothered...im sure many people on this board are interested if this is a fact or plain nonsense, YOUR CALL

Sorry but I am not in a mood for a long meaningless discussions with almost hysterical posters .. I said it what it is most logical to me and whoever doesn't feel the same it is their right
Also I am not interested in discussions about the parents of Madeleine McCann.. in my view they are the victims of this case.. as long as they are not suspects in this investigation I am going along with the police.. they have more info and they know better..