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Offline pegasus

Re SY investigating 3 mobilesall in PDL and communicating with each other that night.

I already listed one example of calls/txts between 3 mobiles (2 portuguese 1 foreign)
I see no sign they are burglars

Heres another example of a triple link in the files. A T9 UK mobile, a UK mobile, and a UK landline, all communicate with each other. Was highlighted because it looked suspicious, but it is not (although the experts were still puzzling over it)



 
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icabodcrane

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2014, 04:47:26 PM »
May I ask Heri,  just out of curiousity,  why did you take your theory to the British press   (  I'm assuming you did because the Express have directly quoted you  ) 

What did you hope to achieve ?
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Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 09:34:29 PM »
Just to think ... On burglaries by Amelie Pedneault ... Complete.

http://justicestudies.sjsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/thesis-final-pedneault.pdf

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Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2014, 10:01:04 PM »
Other interesting reading:

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vdhb.pdf

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/hb.pdf


The four entries to show offenders are versatile ...



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Lyall

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2014, 10:23:41 PM »
£2.6m is a lot of money Heriberto.

Yet not a peep from anyone about anything.

Lyall

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2014, 10:25:37 PM »
I think the title of Amelie Pedneault's next is 'NO HONOR AMONG THIEVES'.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2014, 11:13:44 PM »
These statistics are for the US.. completely different social surrounding than the Portugal.. let alone a small village in Portugal..
I don't think US statistic could be applied to Portugal.

And even if one of the three burglars was a sexual offender, then what the other two would say? Would they like to be involved in such crime?
I don't think all potential burglars would agree with such crime!

I think this is a completely wrong lead!

Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2014, 11:20:53 PM »
Statistics do not prove nothing about a single case. What I want to show is that the offenders are not specialists, they are versatile.

A burglar could only be a burglar, but could also be a rapist, an abductor, a killer ...

A burglar could commit more serious crimes.



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Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2014, 11:29:08 PM »
Statistics do not prove nothing about a single case. What I want to show is that the offenders are not specialists, they are versatile.

A burglar could be only a burglar, but could also be a rapist, an abductor, a killer ... Including the idea of taking a child to sell ...

A burglar could commit more serious crimes.

This is true. But if three people came to burglar that apartment, possibly the same group who's done it before then to take Madeleine with them and nothing else is strange.. Why? If the all three were sex offenders then they were not burglars! They were sex offenders!

You say they can take a child to sell? It is like they every day get requests for children.. they don't!

If they came for Madeleine to sell her, then they came due to this specific request! To take the child, they had an order for.
For a burglar to take a child accidentally and they sell her.. to me this sounds not possible.. unless this was an 0,000001 option that the potential burglar, when he saw Madeleine thought 'aha.. now I remember xyz wants a child exactly like this child.. I am going to take her and sell her to xyz' .. which would be very very odd coincidence..
That is my opinion!

Lyall

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2014, 11:32:18 PM »
Statistics do not prove nothing about a single case. What I want to show is that the offenders are not specialists, they are versatile.

A burglar could be only a burglar, but could also be a rapist, an abductor, a killer ... Including the idea of taking a child to sell ...

A burglar could commit more serious crimes.

Taking a child to sell? >@@(*&)

The McCanns weren't Lindberghs.

Lyall

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2014, 11:34:30 PM »
They're going to take the child of a British couple on the Algarve?

That's stupidity not versatility.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2014, 11:38:26 PM »
They're going to take the child of a British couple on the Algarve?

That's stupidity not versatility.

This is quite arrogant.
And can you explain why not?

Lyall

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Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2014, 11:42:13 PM »
This is quite arrogant.
And can you explain why not?

It would likely guarantee maximum exposure. Which is exactly what happened of course. And some.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the burglaries at Ocean Club have some relevance to Madeleine?
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2014, 11:44:33 PM »
It would likely guarantee maximum exposure. Which is exactly what happened of course. And some.

Maybe they were arrogant and thought they were the more clever than the PJ and SY.. and they cannot get caught.
Which is exactly what happened.  8**8:/: