A child abducted yet nobody thought to phone the police immediately?

[Mr Gray]

It's not disinformation, the fact is that neither parent phoned the police.

their friends went to reception to ask reception to phone the police...nothing strange about that...McCanns couldn't use their own phones as they didn't speak portuguese

[Wonderfulspam]

their friends went to reception to ask reception to phone the police...nothing strange about that...McCanns couldn't use their own phones as they didn't speak portuguese

Well they could use their phones & they did when they phoned family members.

Did they even try ringing the police themselves?

[Mr Gray]

Well they could use their phones & they did when they phoned family members.

Did they even try ringing the police themselves?

they would need to speak Portuguese to speak to the police themselves...that's why is was reception who called...quite simple really

[Wonderfulspam]

they would need to speak Portuguese to speak to the police themselves...that's why is was reception who called...quite simple really

You don't reckon there would have been a single emergency operator who spoke a bit of English then.

There may well have been, but the McCanns didn't even try did they.

[Mr Gray]

You don't reckon there would have been a single emergeny operator who spoke a bit of English then.

There may well have been, but the McCanns didn't even try did they.

I don't think its at all strange that reception called the police for them...not strange in the slightest...it would be much easier for reception staff who would be fluent in both English and Portuguese. I find it strange that you keep pushing such an unimportant point

[Keela]

I have answered similar questions on thta subject asked by YOU, three times in roughly the past 24 hours

As for the time: 
They called the police at 10.05 - 10.10 via their agents Matt and Ocean Club Reception.  They were not to know that Reception let them down and failed to make the necessary call at the time.

And Gerry personally went to Reception and this time they did call the Police.  I think that was about 10.30 but I am happy to be corrected on that time.



Why do you keep putting this disinformation about, Wspam, that The Mccanns didn't call the police?  They did and very early on initially, but were let down by their agent OC Reception.

Additionally OC reception had been warned VERY early on by one of the waiters, now was it Jeronimo?   I forget which one.


Maybe they were overloaded with new guests at that time?  Dunno ?  But what a let down for Madeleine.

The police were called twice from the Ocean Club reception, first at 10.41 and second at 10.52. Please see on page 3052 of the PJ Files: http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CALLS_TO_GNR.htm.
It is known that before the police were called the media were informed about the 'abduction' although nobody could have known what happened. Kate said in several interviews (so also during the German XY programme) the police came very late (approx. 1 hour later) after the calls. That is not true, they arrived about 10 - 15 minutes after the first call. This is quite short because the next police station isin Lagos about 7 km away.

[John]

Actually the only patrol out that night was dealing with a reported robbery in Odiáxere which was some 13Km or approx 15 minutes away.

[stephen25000]

The McCanns had the police called at 10.05 - 10.10 via their agents Matt and Ocean Club Reception.  They were not to know that Reception let them down and failed to make the necessary call at the time.

And Gerry personally went to Reception and this time they did call the Police.  I think that was about 10.30 but I am happy to be corrected on that time.



Why do you keep putting this disinformation about, Wspam, that The Mccanns didn't call the police?  They did and very early on initially, but were let down by their agent OC Reception.

Additionally OC reception had been warned VERY early on by one of the waiters, now was it Jeronimo?   I forget which one.


Maybe they were overloaded with new guests at that time?  Dunno ?  But what a let down for Madeleine.

Do you have verifiable proof of that first sentence.

Hearsay is insufficient.

[John]

I find it quite puzzling as to why not one of the group felt it necessary to phone the police and especially so as much telephone usage was going on in any event.  The old 'they don't speak English' nonsense just doesn't cut it.  Many of the staff were bilingual and could have spoken to the police operator but regardless, most operators have some knowledge of English and can transfer any call to their HQ where English speakers work.  Additionally, the receptionist at Ocean Club could be telephoned immediately so why send Matt off on a needless hike?

Lost precious minutes imo.

[Brietta]

The police were called twice from the Ocean Club reception, first at 10.41 and second at 10.52. Please see on page 3052 of the PJ Files: http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CALLS_TO_GNR.htm.
It is known that before the police were called the media were informed about the 'abduction' although nobody could have known what happened. Kate said in several interviews (so also during the German XY programme) the police came very late (approx. 1 hour later) after the calls. That is not true, they arrived about 10 - 15 minutes after the first call. This is quite short because the next police station isin Lagos about 7 km away.

03- Processos Vol III Pages 796 to 797
Date: 2007/05/09
Witness Statement
Helder Jorge Samaio Luis

Occupation: Receptionist Ocean Club

Has worked at the Ocean Club for almost a year and a half and works as a Receptionist at the main Ocean Club Reception. He doesn't work fixed hours but he always works on the 16.00 to 34.00 shift.

All his work takes place at the main reception.

He knows about the situation that happened at the Ocean Club concerning the disappearance of a little given that on the day in question (03/05/2007) he was on duty and was contacted by a member of staff from the Tapas Restaurant between 09.30 and 22.00 who informed him that the daughter of some guests who were dining there had disappeared.

That he immediately contacted the GNR in Lagos, shortly after this the child's father and John Hill arrived at the reception and he phoned the GNR again.

He then contacted the head of reception Vítor Santos and informed him of the situation.

He remained at the OC reception until 24.00 when he was replaced by a colleague Mr Eliseu.

He then left the OC and went home.

He did not see or hear anything suspicious on 3rd May nor on the previous days.

Reads, signs, ratifies.
http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HELDER_LUIS.htm

[Alice Purjorick]

The McCanns had the police called at 10.05 - 10.10 via their agents Matt and Ocean Club Reception.  They were not to know that Reception let them down and failed to make the necessary call at the time.

And Gerry personally went to Reception and this time they did call the Police.  I think that was about 10.30 but I am happy to be corrected on that time.



Why do you keep putting this disinformation about, Wspam, that The Mccanns didn't call the police?  They did and very early on initially, but were let down by their agent OC Reception.

Additionally OC reception had been warned VERY early on by one of the waiters, now was it Jeronimo?   I forget which one.


Maybe they were overloaded with new guests at that time?  Dunno ?  But what a let down for Madeleine.

What an extraordinary notion ...... Sadie. A task they should have performed themselves is delegated and all of a sudden it is someone elses fault it wasn't done? they did not even ask if the task had been performed the most important task to performed at the time; astonishing.

[Mr Gray]

What an extraordinary notion ....... Sadie. A task they should have performed themselves is delegated and all of a sudden it is someone elses fault it wasn't done? they did not even ask if the task had been performed the most important task to performed at the time; astonishing.

seems a lot of people on here are experts on how to behave when you fear your child has been kidnapped...the astonishing thing is that you all think there is a certain way to behave and anyone who does not comply with your mindset is suspect...astonishing

[sadie]

What an extraordinary notion ........ Sadie. A task they should have performed themselves is delegated and all of a sudden it is someone elses fault it wasn't done? they did not even ask if the task had been performed the most important task to performed at the time; astonishing.

Who says it should be performed by them personally?  Do you KNOW EVERYTHING AP ?

FGS, they delegated the task to a doctor, not some seven year old.

At that early stage, they probably thought it better for Kate to look after the twins and be home in case Madeleine returned, with Daddy out searching and calling her name.

Luv from ....... xxxxx   

[Benice]

The police were called twice from the Ocean Club reception, first at 10.41 and second at 10.52. Please see on page 3052 of the PJ Files: http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CALLS_TO_GNR.htm.

It is known that before the police were called the media were informed about the 'abduction' although nobody could have known what happened.       Kate said in several interviews (so also during the German XY programme) the police came very late (approx. 1 hour later) after the calls. That is not true, they arrived about 10 - 15 minutes after the first call. This is quite short because the next police station isin Lagos about 7 km away.

This is completely untrue.     Unless you can prove otherwise I suggest you remove it from your post. 

Also -  as far as Kate knew at the time  - the police had been called by Reception shortly after 10.00.    They arrived at around 11.00 - i.e. approx. 1 hr later.   

The police did not come from any police station.   They were re-directed from another call out.

[Alice Purjorick]

It is not the sort of task I would have delegated unless I were physically incapable of doing it myself as I would wish to ensure it had been done properly. Should it have been essential to delegate I would made good and sure it had been executed properly whether I had delegated to Einstein or Forrest Gump. That is the way I work and I find it astonishing that anyone should think it is abnormal to ensure an important delegated task has been completed satisfactorily.