A child abducted yet nobody thought to phone the police immediately?

[Wonderfulspam]

Gerry's statement....

. Immediately, the group headed for the club and searched across all the facilities, swimming pool, tennis etc., as well as in the apartment, with the help of Ocean Club employees, while at the same time they contacted the authorities, that would later appear.

so Gerry says the authorities were contacted immediately

They weren't though.

[Mr Gray]

They weren't though.

if Gerry said they were that's good enough for me and SY

[Miss Taken Identity]

Phoning the police was not done as soon as the 'abductor' stole Maddie!  Kate ran to the tapas bar ( it was in the garden, why not just shout) No one shouted phone the police to the tapas staff? really oh ok then.

The media, the family all got a phone call. to get in there with the  OMG our daughter has been abducted by a criminal- look they came through a window... it was jemmied and we were just like, sitting like, what it is like sitting in the garden, and we could see the flat from where we were sitting...

Hmmm

[xtina]

What we must never loose sight of, are the "Jemmied Shutters" that weren't.

The cornerstone on which the McCann's built their argument for "stranger abduction" was the jemmied shutters.


 No jemmied shutters,........... no abduction. It's that simple.

[stephen25000]

What we must never loose sight of, are the "Jemmied Shutters" that weren't.

The cornerstone on which the McCann's built their argument for "stranger abduction" was the jemmied shutters.


 No jemmied shutters,........... no abduction. It's that simple.

Indeed. kate mccann is fond of fantasy stories.

Her book after all follows from the 'abduction'. &%+((£

[pathfinder73]

if Gerry said they were that's good enough for me and SY

No it's not because nobody knew where Gerry was after the alarm. We have Russ saying that Gerry said let's all split up and find her and he's disappeared. His only alibi is Kate saying he was examining shutters but when Dianne Webster got there only minutes later she said Kate was alone - No Gerry! Fiona sent Matt to call the police around 10:10. Matt didn't see Gerry until 10:40 when the police were called with John Hill.

"The question being asked about the people that were inside the apartment of McCANN at that time, the witness said that the McCANN couple were present (although on the first occasion she had no recollection of having seen GERRY)" (DW Statement)

[John]

There is no doubt that failure to contact the police immediately was a crucial factor in the outcome of this case.  They allegedly found the children's bedroom window wide open and the shutter up and yet not one of them had the wit to call 112.  Unbelievable!

[sadie]

There is no doubt that failure to contact the police immediately was a crucial factor in the outcome of this case.  They allegedly found the children's bedroom window wide open and the shutter up and yet not one of them had the wit to call 112.  Unbelievable!

John, PLEASe

You have said the same thing over and over and I m fed up of rtesponding to it.

You have property in Spain, I believe, and have lived there for an extended period, so YOU would know 112.



Most of us do not have a property in Europe and would not know that number.

The Tapas group were fairly seasoned travellers and would have stayed at 3* and above hotels a number of times before.  They would know that the reception is the place to go.   Reception speak both languages fluently, and would instantly be set up to phone the right place and explain the circumstances.

Receptioin is there to help the guests. 


Maybe you, John,  are not a seasoned 3*+ hotel guest and are not aware of the main purpose of reception?





What the Mccanns / Tapas did was the norm and they did it promptly.


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[Brietta]

One wouldn't need to be holidaying abroad for Reception to be the first port of call in an emergency; but in a country where you do not speak the language it would be common sense.

If for example, someone was suffering a heart attack what would be more helpful ... dialling 911 and trying to explain to centralised emergency services exactly what service you require; exactly what the problem is; and exactly what your location is ... or sending  someone to run to Reception in a couple of minutes and telling them the problem and allowing them to do their job of alerting emergency services?

In my opinion the latter option is the more efficient whether dealing with a medical emergency or a missing child; it could save time, for example how many of us know the exact address of a holiday accomodation.

I wonder if added risk assessments have taken place in holiday resorts to ammend protocols and procedures when a child goes missing not to assume that the disappearance is not indicative of criminal intent but to immediately assume the worst scenario and call the police as soon as the immediate search of the area where the child was last seen is complete.

[John]

John, PLEASe

You have said the same thing over and over and I m fed up of responding to it.  You have property in Spain, I believe, and have lived there for an extended period, so YOU would know 112.
Most of us do not have a property in Europe and would not know that number.

The Tapas group were fairly seasoned travellers and would have stayed at 3* and above hotels a number of times before.  They would know that the reception is the place to go.   Reception speak both languages fluently, and would instantly be set up to phone the right place and explain the circumstances.

Reception is there to help the guests. 

Maybe you, John,  are not a seasoned 3*+ hotel guest and are not aware of the main purpose of reception?





What the Mccanns / Tapas did was the norm and they did it promptly.

Sorry...don't agree.  Had this been a hotel with reception on site you might have had an argument but this wasn't the case, reception was several minutes away and quite remote from the OC Garden complex.

There just aren't any excuses Sadie, they all had tongues and could ask anyone what the emergency phone number was.  And as someone posted previously, the emergency control room could call on English speakers at any time, day or night.  So in reality all the excuses in the world just don't wash.  The more I think about it the more valid the thread title is, namely, A child abducted yet nobody thought to phone the police immediately?

If you need something to eat or want to order a taxi or request room service you go to reception Sadie, if your child disappears in suspicious circumstances leading you to believe he or she has been abducted, guess what?

You phone the fecking police ASAP!   ...just like the waiter and Mrs Fenn wanted to do but were rebuked.  Very odd?

[Alice Purjorick]

Sorry...don't agree.  Had this been a hotel with reception on site you might have had an argument but this wasn't the case, reception was several minutes away and quite remote from the OC Garden complex.

There just aren't any excuses Sadie, they all had tongues and could ask anyone what the emergency phone number was.  And as someone posted previously, the emergency control room could call on English speakers at any time, day or night.  So in reality all the excuses in the world just don't wash.  The more I think about it the more valid the thread title is, namely, A child abducted yet nobody thought to phone the police immediately?

If you need something to eat or want to order a taxi or request room service you go to reception Sadie, if your child disappears in suspicious circumstances leading you to believe he or she has been abducted, guess what?

You phone the fecking police ASAP!   ...just like the waiter and Mrs Fenn wanted to do but were rebuked.  Very odd?

My dear Forum Owner I am with you on that one. My immediate reaction would be to phone the cops. But then clearly I am not a seasoned enough traveler to understand what I should do is waste my time trying to find a receptionist to do it for me.
I am the sort of seasoned traveler who takes note of where the fire escape is and counts the doors to it.

[Brietta]

My dear Forum Owner I am with you on that one. My immediate reaction would be to phone the cops. But then clearly I am not a seasoned enough traveler to understand what I should do is waste my time trying to find a receptionist to do it for me.
I am the sort of seasoned traveler who takes note of where the fire escape is and counts the doors to it.

Funnily enough I too always plan an escape route when in an unfamiliar place and do a risk assessment in my head even when on a visit to the theatre.

Wonderful to go through those thought processes in the cold light of day as it were.

My foresight has never been tested in the event of a real and devastating emergency situation so I have no idea how I might react and may be no more immune to running around like a headless chicken than the next person.

For that reason I would not presume to second guess those who have been in a heart stopping emergency; but I have no idea where you are coming from - the McCann family thought the police had been called, If the Drs McCann had each made a call do you think the GNR could have responded any sooner?

[Miss Taken Identity]

My dear Forum Owner I am with you on that one. My immediate reaction would be to phone the cops. But then clearly I am not a seasoned enough traveler to understand what I should do is waste my time trying to find a receptionist to do it for me.
I am the sort of seasoned traveler who takes note of where the fire escape is and counts the doors to it.

Of course there was no mention of of Kate running in shouting  "Maddie has been abducted please someone phone the police"-  none in tapas did? and why did the mother in law not rush to help with the search? I find that very odd she stayed behind for 5 mins ? why?  and poor Mrs Fenn- she was another one to get the sharp end of Kates nasty snipes!


Oh, and well, I forgot, who better to deal with an emergency that  A WHOLE BUNCH OF DOCTORS!

[Alice Purjorick]

Funnily enough I too always plan an escape route when in an unfamiliar place and do a risk assessment in my head even when on a visit to the theatre.

Wonderful to go through those thought processes in the cold light of day as it were.

My foresight has never been tested in the event of a real and devastating emergency situation so I have no idea how I might react and may be no more immune to running around like a headless chicken than the next person.

For that reason I would not presume to second guess those who have been in a heart stopping emergency; but I have no idea where you are coming from - the McCann family thought the police had been called, If the Drs McCann had each made a call do you think the GNR could have responded any sooner?

That is the part I do not understand. I would never dream of delegating such an important task to someone else so find it hard to understand why anyone would. Do it myself I know it has been done and properly. Who ever was "catching" at the police office would likely ask questions a stranger could not answer... We must politely beg to differ; I find it strange behaviour you find it perfectly normal.

[julie]

That is the part I do not understand. I would never dream of delegating such an important task to someone else so find it hard to understand why anyone would. Do it myself I know it has been done and properly. Who ever was "catching" at the police office would likely ask questions a stranger could not answer... We must politely beg to differ; I find it strange behaviour you find it perfectly normal.

the truth is that they were all pissed to varying degrees and couldnt conduct a lucid telephone conversation with anyone let alone the police so that in my book makes it twice that they let maddie down.