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stephen25000

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Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #270 on: February 04, 2014, 06:03:11 PM »
Yes.


Can you provide precise and quantitative evidence of abduction please ?

Merely stating it, isn't evidence.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #271 on: February 04, 2014, 06:41:54 PM »

Can you provide precise and quantitative evidence of abduction please ?

Merely stating it, isn't evidence.

why don't you telephone SY Stephen and tell them your amazing revelation

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #272 on: February 04, 2014, 06:43:28 PM »
Why do you accept Ben Needham was abducted..theres no evidence...your logic is totally inconsistent

Cariad

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Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #273 on: February 04, 2014, 07:08:52 PM »
Why do you accept Ben Needham was abducted..theres no evidence...your logic is totally inconsistent

Out of curiosity, does anyone doubt the Needhams? I mean, there is a large body of people who have their suspicions (whether logical or not) about the Mccanns. Has anyone ever heard of someone voicing the same concerns regarding Ben?

Offline jassi

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #274 on: February 04, 2014, 07:14:46 PM »
Probably not,but had she surrounded herself with a reputation management team, people might have looked on her a bit more suspiciously.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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drummer

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Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #275 on: February 04, 2014, 09:55:24 PM »
If Madeleine had disappeared 20 years ago I doubt her parents would've had the help they have had, probably not the bile either.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #276 on: February 04, 2014, 10:27:00 PM »
If Madeleine had disappeared 20 years ago I doubt her parents would've had the help they have had, probably not the bile either.

I doubt so. 20 years ago everyone was leaving their kids alone, there was much less crime against kids and plus she might had been luckier with the choice of the first moment detective on duty...so maybe she would had been found immediately.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #277 on: February 04, 2014, 10:28:36 PM »
I doubt so. 20 years ago everyone was leaving their kids alone, there was much less crime against kids and plus she might had been luckier with the choice of the first moment detective on duty...so maybe she would had been found immediately.

'20 years ago everyone was leaving their kids alone'

Bullshit.
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Cariad

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Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #278 on: February 04, 2014, 10:37:24 PM »
I doubt so. 20 years ago everyone was leaving their kids alone, there was much less crime against kids and plus she might had been luckier with the choice of the first moment detective on duty...so maybe she would had been found immediately.

My elder boy will be 18 in September. I never left him alone. Not even to pop to the corner shop for milk. If I were alone in the house with the boys in bed and I needed something urgently (milk for the morning coffee counts as urgent) I'd call my Dad.

I'm 36 and I was never left alone as a child. My parents would get baby sitters if they wanted to go out.

I've never met anyone who says they leave their lids alone. Who is this 'everybody'?

As to your second statement that 20 years ago their was much less crime against kids. That's just rubbish.

What are the worst crimes that you can think of off the top of your head?

For me it's probably:

The Moors murders:
The wests:
Dunblaine.

Dunblaine is the most recent and that was 18 years ago.

20 years ago the world was just as messed up as it is now, if not even more so.

It's too late for me to go looking up crime rate figures, but I will in the morning and I won't be supprised if things are actually safer now.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #279 on: February 04, 2014, 11:19:38 PM »
Yes.

Do you know how many vehicles were owned by OC that time?
What the 'service vehicle' means? Is this the same vehicle as the one the tourists were driven from the airport?
At that night one of the 'service vehicles' were in the hands of these people
 
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HAYLEY-CRAWFORD.htm

Offline Anna

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #280 on: February 05, 2014, 01:57:04 AM »
Do you know how many vehicles were owned by OC that time?
What the 'service vehicle' means? Is this the same vehicle as the one the tourists were driven from the airport?
At that night one of the 'service vehicles' were in the hands of these people
 
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HAYLEY-CRAWFORD.htm

You've got it ! and here's the partner that I think might have been called out to help with the doorlock that the mini driver's passenger couldn't get into . His statement didn't say that he collected a vehicle when the job was done, but could all be quite innocent though

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post178.html#p178
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Offline colombosstogey

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #281 on: February 05, 2014, 06:29:06 AM »
Out of curiosity, does anyone doubt the Needhams? I mean, there is a large body of people who have their suspicions (whether logical or not) about the Mccanns. Has anyone ever heard of someone voicing the same concerns regarding Ben?

I never DOUBTED Mrs Needham, I dont think she knew genuinely what happened to her son, BUT.....there was something odd about the uncle, which I believe has been documented, something about motorbike and accident and total memory loss.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #282 on: February 05, 2014, 06:31:23 AM »
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/madeleine-mccann-to-jeffery-boucher-web-sleuths-quest-for-the-missing-1.2516726

The thread on web sleuths is not allowed, as it was attacked by trolls, and you can only now talk about little issues, pointless in fact.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #283 on: February 05, 2014, 06:33:48 AM »
Not sure, but this seems to be an OC minibus, parked near OC reception and Madeleine creche.

Not sure of your point.  8-)(--)

IF it belongs to OC why wouldnt it be parked there. The OC have a minibus so what?  The drivers were all brought in and talked to by the police.

I know someone who HAD a criminal record when he was young, and he has been working ever since for years, doesnt mean he will ever offend again....and its a big huge leap from stealing money to killing children.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.
« Reply #284 on: February 05, 2014, 06:35:23 AM »
Why do you accept Ben Needham was abducted..theres no evidence...your logic is totally inconsistent

There is NO PROOF he was abducted, just that he disappeared......he could have easily wondered off and fell into a disused well, hole anywhere, where they lived the territory was terrible place.