Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Opening the window and shutter from outside (as you correctly deduce IMO) surely indicates the person did NOT use a key.
This indicates IMO that the person did NOT have a key.

Once one recognises this person did NOT have a key, the only reason for presuming it was an employee is gone, and it is more likely to be a non-employee with no key IMO.

It is odd I agree that an employee would attempt to enter from the window - but perhaps Heriberto has another reason for believing the person was an employee that he cannot divulge...

Not all staff would have keys...

[Heriberto Janosch]

It is odd I agree that an employee would attempt to enter from the window - but perhaps Heriberto has another reason for believing the person was an employee that he cannot divulge...

I think this OC employee may have not a 5A key ... I have another reason but it is not possible to tell without revealing the OC employee name.

[icabodcrane]

I think this OC employee may have not a 5A key ... I have another reason but it is not possible to tell without revealing the OC employee name.

Well,  whether you reveal the name or not,  this employee/thief  will  know  it's him that the press are refering to,  won't he  ? 

He's been given a very handy  'heads-up'  wouldn't you agree  ?   (  and plenty of time to do a runner  )

So why  did  you speak to the British press about him  ? 

[pathfinder73]

Explained here: http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2013/04/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-janosch.html

Thanks. Madeleine would go to the window thinking it was her parents who opened the window? Do her parents usually open the window outside in the dark? I don't think so. Madeleine would squeeze past the two cots and go the window in that dark room? Then climb on top of the bed so the abductor can easily pick her up and take her away leaving no trace of window evidence - Madeleine kicking and screaming when she realises it's not her parents (Madeleine was very loud). No she would be scared and would go straight into the living room and hide behind the sofa.

[pegasus]

@Heriberto I agree with you not naming your suggested employee who you state definitely has a criminal record for theft. Are you absolutely sure of that criminal record? Are you certain that it is the same person, and not some other person with same name (in full or part). Portuguese names we know can be long. Does the entire name (every forename and every family name) match?

[Sherlock Holmes]

Thanks. Madeleine would go to the window thinking it was her parents who opened the window? Do her parents usually open the window outside in the dark? I don't think so. Madeleine would squeeze past the two cots and go the window in that dark room? Then climb on top of the bed so the abductor can easily pick her up and take her away leaving no trace of window evidence - Madeleine apparently kicking and screaming when she realises it's not her parents. No she would be scared and would go straight into the living room and hide behind the sofa.

I find this part hard to understand as well. At the age of almost four, she's not going to stand passively and compliantly and let stranger or someone she barely knows lift her up and take her out of a window.

[VIXTE]

Explained here: http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com.es/2013/04/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-janosch.html

Madeleine did not sleep in the bed next to the window. She slept in the bed next to the doors.

Madeleine's bed hasn't been messed up as if she was awake. When children are awake in bed, they mess up their beds.

According to Gerry's statement, he saw her sleeping silently. And Matt Oldfield although he did not see Madeleine he did not hear any noise which would suggest Madeleine was awake.

Now the doors:
1. Left ajar
2. found wider open by Gerry at 9.05 and Gerry returns the doors to 'ajar'
3. Matt saw other two kids in cots and claims there was a light in the room enough for him to see them and this suggests that at the time of Matt's visit the shutter was raised but the window not open. Suggests the doors open more than 'ajar'. There was no draft and curtains were not moving.
4. Kate finds the doors open at 10pm and also shutter open and window open and the curtains wide open.

If Madeleine was taken just by opening the window and picking her up how do you explain the doors movement, the light difference and the window being left open?

IMO the person was in this room all of this time and was hiding in Madeleine's wardrobe.

IMO he was afraid to exit, as there were constant movements.

IMO the window was opened from inside and the shutter too.. for him to pass Madeleine through the window to someone.

Now the Smiths sighting and if it was Madeleine my question is which side of the man body the girls head was leaning to? Right or left?
Anyone remembers this?

[pathfinder73]

That's the bottom line in this case. For any abductor to do this they have to explain the open window that nobody went through and that includes Madeleine. If you had a key or entered via unlocked patio door you wouldn't waste time or take the risk in opening noisy shutters and window. They can't explain that open window in a realistic way so they have to separate the open window (opportunist burglar who fled with unbelievable timing) from the actual abduction.

[Heriberto Janosch]

I do not know if it is well explained:

An Ocean Club employee may have opened the window to steal, and caught Madeleine for fear of being recognized. I reported this OC employee to Scotland Yard Operation Grange and PJ Oporto team in June 2013 (he had a previous record for theft). I also reported two more OC employees who may be closely related to the first one (and also reported a fourth OC employee who may know about the burglaries).

I said those people must be investigated, if not yet.

In Crimewatch of October 2013 was a direct reference to this first OC employee, and a direct reference to one of the other two OC employees closely related to the first one.

The first one may have not a 5A key.

Good night, Heri.

[pathfinder73]

Thanks for sharing Henri but I don't know how opening a window can = to Madeleine being taken. He would need to be inside to catch her. Why don't you think he didn't have a key?

[Sherlock Holmes]

Madeleine did not sleep in the bed next to the window. She slept in the bed next to the doors.

Madeleine's bed hasn't been messed up as if she was awake. When children are awake in bed, they mess up their beds.

According to Gerry's statement, he saw her sleeping silently. And Matt Oldfield although he did not see Madeleine he did not hear any noise which would suggest Madeleine was awake.

Now the doors:
1. Left ajar
2. found wider open by Gerry at 9.05 and Gerry returns the doors to 'ajar'
3. Matt saw other two kids in cots and claims there was a light in the room enough for him to see them and this suggests that at the time of Matt's visit the shutter was raised but the window not open. Suggests the doors open more than 'ajar'. There was no draft and curtains were not moving.
4. Kate finds the doors open at 10pm and also shutter open and window open and the curtains wide open.

If Madeleine was taken just by opening the window and picking her up how do you explain the doors movement, the light difference and the window being left open?

IMO the person was in this room all of this time and was hiding in Madeleine's wardrobe.

IMO he was afraid to exit, as there were constant movements.

IMO the window was opened from inside and the shutter too.. for him to pass Madeleine through the window to someone.

Now the Smiths sighting and if it was Madeleine my question is which side of the man body the girls head was leaning to? Right or left?
Anyone remembers this?

No reference to right or left, but the arms were down the side of the child's body rather than around the man's neck.

This I always found odd. Wouldn't a child normally cling on to the parent? Even if asleep or half asleep?

Is this the position of someone who has been knocked out?

[pegasus]

Thanks. Madeleine would go to the window thinking it was her parents who opened the window? Do her parents usually open the window outside in the dark? I don't think so. Madeleine would squeeze past the two cots and go the window in that dark room? Then climb on top of the bed so the abductor can easily pick her up and take her away leaving no trace of window evidence - Madeleine kicking and screaming when she realises it's not her parents (Madeleine was very loud). No she would be scared and would go straight into the living room and hide behind the sofa.

I find this part hard to understand as well. At the age of almost four, she's not going to stand passively and compliantly and let stranger or someone she barely knows lift her up and take her out of a window.

I suggest please do not reject the exellent and IMO correct first part of Heriberto's theory (a would-be petty thief opens window and shutter from outside).
IMO continue from it with insistence on common sense. No way would a child walk to the window.

A petty thief, thinking no-one is home, opens window and shutter from outside.
What happens next? Childs wakes and runs into lounge or other bedroom. Petty thief disturbed by seeing/hearing totally unexpected occupant flees empty handed, never enters.

So there you have part one. It does not by itself explain the disappearance , but crucially it totally alters the situation, and from that very altered situation work out part two (with the petty thief gone and playing no further part). What happens next?
Everything just IMO.

[pathfinder73]

No reference to right or left, but the arms were down the side of the child's body rather than around the man's neck.

This I always found odd. Wouldn't a child normally cling on to the parent? Even if asleep or half asleep?

Is this the position of someone who has been knocked out?

Her head was on Smithman's left shoulder. Knocked out? Far worse than that I'm afraid when he was seen running for his life and wouldn't even acknowledge them when he was spoken too.

[VIXTE]

Her head was on Smithman's left shoulder.

Thanks, this would match picking Madeleine from her bed.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Her head was on Smithman's left shoulder.

Thanks for clarifying, pathfinder. I misread VIXTE's question - thought he meant which way the child's head was turned.