Former staff at Ocean Club now being investigated over burglary claims.

[VIXTE]

Mobile Phone?

If he's experienced hiding in the room first during the Gerry's check-up and then Matt's check-up by this time he's going to be quite frustrated and frightened and  using the phone, with lights or sounds would be quite risky.

Anyway, this would be the "burglary gone wrong".. he's there to steal something and he ends up accidentally killing the child.. calls for help and the help is not coming.. during this time Gerry and Matt come.. the burglar is out of his mind.. this kind of scenario I am talking about..

[Sherlock Holmes]

If he's experienced hiding in the room first during the Gerry's check-up and then Matt's check-up by this time he's going to be quite frustrated and frightened and  using the phone, with lights or sounds would be quite risky.

Hmmm

[VIXTE]

But then if he was for that long in the room he'd leave some DNA trace I guess..

[Sherlock Holmes]

But then if he was for that long in the room he'd leave some DNA trace I guess..

That was destroyed when the world and his dog trapsed through the apartment in the coming days..

[pathfinder73]

Why would he wait inside an apartment - maybe he wanted to get caught? That is crazy talk. Time to get real. If it happened he would be in and out in a flash. That open window was the first sign of a set up when no evidence was found of anybody passing through it. They couldn't work out why an abductor would open it and then not use it for entry or exit  8-)(--) Red herrings and other BS exist in the fantasy world not in a realistic situation. They need to separate it from the abductor to an opportunist burglar who struck at the same time believe it or not   

[Sherlock Holmes]

Why would he wait inside an apartment - maybe he wanted to get caught? That is crazy talk. Time to get real. If it happened he would be in and out in a flash. That open window was the first sign of a set up when no evidence was found of anybody passing through it. They couldn't work out why an abductor would open it and then not use it for entry or exit  8-)(--) Red herrings and other BS exist in the fantasy world not in a realistic situation. They need to separate it from the abductor to an opportunist burglar who struck at the same time believe it or not   

What you're suggesting doesn't necesarily contradict the idea of the three burglars.

There is nothing so far to say that they were working collaboratively at this point. They could have been working on separate operations to do with 5A.

Given the apartment's vulnerability, not so far fetched.

[pegasus]

There is an example in the UK of a burglar hiding about 12? hours in a wardrobe and yes that includes while police where in the room  >@@(*&)
Can probably dig out a link if required.
But in this PDL case all the evidence IMO indicates the burglar never got as far as climbing in the window.
Now what might be the reason for that?

[icabodcrane]

There is an example in the UK of a burglar hiding about 12? hours in a wardrobe and yes that includes while police where in the room  >@@(*&)
Can probably dig out a link if required.
But in this PDL case all the evidence IMO indicates the burglar never got as far as climbing in the window.
Now what might be the reason for that?

...  because there  was no burglar  ?

...  because the window was opened in order to  'stage'  a break-in  ?

That might be a reason

[Sherlock Holmes]

I think the source of the burglary gone wrong stories in the press is Heriberto Janosch

What about the claim, in several articles making reference to the three burglars, that the McCanns have been 'buoyed' by recent developments.

That surely can only have come from a source near to the McCanns.

[colombosstogey]

JEEZ give me a break....

PDL is now renowned for the epicentre of the criminal world and mind.........

They should change their holiday advertising.

Thomas B. Cook - AMAZING PRAIA DA LUZ HOLIDAYS....tired of carrying that heavy swag bag?

Then why not come to beautiful Portugal and just relax for a 7 nights, self catering holiday. We have an apartment located in the centre of picturesque Praia da Luz, with kids pool and playground, tennis and a spa.

While away your nights in our Tapas Bar, or one of the many local restaurants.

Extra optionals.

Praia Da Luz is ripe for easy pickings, so if you fancy a bit of moonlighting whilst you are enjoying your holiday, you will find many apartments containing booty and bounty, like passports, cameras and laptops all there for the easy picking.

Its known that in Ocean View people feel so safe they even leave the doors open for you to just step in side and take what you want.

So dont delay, hurry today, and book your busmans holiday. Its only a click away....(Swag bag optional).

Cost: 360.00   
7 Nights, Self Catering
from Luton  with Monarch Scheduled  Airlines  on 03.05.14
Transfer time: from airport: approx. 2hrs 45mins.

[stephen25000]

JEEZ give me a break....

PDL is now renowned for the epicentre of the criminal world and mind.........

They should change their holiday advertising.

Thomas B. Cook - AMAZING PRAIA DA LUZ HOLIDAYS....tired of carrying that heavy swag bag?

Then why not come to beautiful Portugal and just relax for a 7 nights, self catering holiday. We have an apartment located in the centre of picturesque Praia da Luz, with kids pool and playground, tennis and a spa.

While away your nights in our Tapas Bar, or one of the many local restaurants.

Extra optionals.

Praia Da Luz is ripe for easy pickings, so if you fancy a bit of moonlighting whilst you are enjoying your holiday, you will find many apartments containing booty and bounty, like passports, cameras and laptops all there for the easy picking.

Its known that in Ocean View people feel so safe they even leave the doors open for you to just step in side and take what you want.

So dont delay, hurry today, and book your busmans holiday. Its only a click away....(Swag bag optional).

Cost: 360.00   
7 Nights, Self Catering
from Luton  with Monarch Scheduled  Airlines  on 03.05.14
Transfer time: from airport: approx. 2hrs 45mins.

Nice one.

[Redblossom]

There is an example in the UK of a burglar hiding about 12? hours in a wardrobe and yes that includes while police where in the room  >@@(*&)
Can probably dig out a link if required.
But in this PDL case all the evidence IMO indicates the burglar never got as far as climbing in the window.
Now what might be the reason for that?

the idea that a burglar/abductor was hiding in the kids wardrobe both on gerry and matts check is farcical beyond belief...in any case, the cot was blocking the wardrobes...he would have to.....oh never mind!

[Heriberto Janosch]

I think we have to wait for the next official statements ...

We have two high instances working:

CPS (Alison Saunders and Jenny Hopkins).
PGR (Joana Marques Vidal and Jose Magalhaes e Menezes).

We have two review/active groups:

SY Operation Grange (Andy Redwood).
PJ Oporto team (Helena Monteiro).

We have two more task groups:

PJ Faro (Luis Manuel Maia Mota Carmo).
PJ Portimão (Ana Laura Rito).

One line is SY ===> CPS ===> PGR ===> PJ Faro/PJ Portimão/SY.
The other line is PGR ===> PJ Oporto.

Will they all make a Joint Investigation Team (JIT)? That will be the logical step.

We have no official info yet, neither from the Oporto team actions (case reopened) nor from SY actions (the 1st. and 2nd. rogatory letters) ...

[Redblossom]

Criminal prosecution service uk is for prosecuting britons
is it not?

 >@@(*&)

[Heriberto Janosch]

Criminal prosecution service uk is for prosecuting britons
is it not?

 >@@(*&)

Britons and no-Britons. CPS sent the two rogatory letters in this case.