Author Topic: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?  (Read 216451 times)

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Offline VIXTE

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #390 on: February 15, 2014, 07:45:38 PM »
The guy was educating and helping others, not making money, get over it, pathetic

Data protection my ar se

I am not saying this guy was doing bad..

I am curious how the PT government has allowed a professional like GA who was employed by his country to pocket i.e make money out of an experience at work..
To me, this is very very very strange! To me this is seen as unprofessional.. it is simply a 'no-no' ground in any country!

Redblossom

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #391 on: February 15, 2014, 09:21:33 PM »
I am not saying this guy was doing bad..

I am curious how the PT government has allowed a professional like GA who was employed by his country to pocket i.e make money out of an experience at work..
To me, this is very very very strange! To me this is seen as unprofessional.. it is simply a 'no-no' ground in any country!

It's obviously not illegal to write books

Some in past history have had them burned though and others in more modern history have tried to get them banned

not alot of difference here

 >@@(*&)

cross your fingers though, the mccanns might get this awful money for themselves if they win he libel trial, shudder at the philosophical thought of it all
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Offline VIXTE

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #392 on: February 15, 2014, 09:25:31 PM »
It's obviously not illegal to write books

Some in past history have had them burned though and others in more modern history have tried to get them banned

not alot of difference here

 >@@(*&)

It is obviously illegal in the UK to use the data acquired in your professional field to make yourself rich..
Not to mention how morally wrong that is..

Redblossom

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #393 on: February 15, 2014, 09:33:45 PM »
It is obviously illegal in the UK to use the data acquired in your professional field to make yourself rich..
Not to mention how morally wrong that is..

did the man you brought up when starting this  conversation make himself rich?
If not, why post it?
If that was the point you were trying to make! Ie making money

Aso pls link to the law which states, well, whatever it is you are trying to state

Offline VIXTE

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #394 on: February 15, 2014, 09:38:27 PM »
did the man you brought up when starting this  conversation make himself rich?
If not, why post it?
If that was the point you were trying to make! Ie making money

Aso pls link to the law which states, well, whatever it is you are trying to state

You are twisting the facts as usual.
The fact is that a debt ridden GA has used the data he acquired at his government held job for a personal money gain.
This is in any modern world place seen as an example of corruption.


Redblossom

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #395 on: February 15, 2014, 09:44:10 PM »
You are twisting the facts as usual.
The fact is that a debt ridden GA has used the data he acquired at his government held job for a personal money gain.
This is in any modern world place seen as an example of corruption.

Oh!
Why don't you go back and reread from your initial post
I twisted nothng at all
You're the one who brought in a nonsensical story just to attack Amaral now it seems, not even tried hard to veil it lol from the off

All that time and energy when you could have just said I think x y z



Got that link yet?
Must do better


Offline jassi

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #396 on: February 15, 2014, 09:49:29 PM »
You are twisting the facts as usual.
The fact is that a debt ridden GA has used the data he acquired at his government held job for a personal money gain.
This is in any modern world place seen as an example of corruption.

Why is this important to you?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Redblossom

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #397 on: February 15, 2014, 09:58:13 PM »
Why is this important to you?

Keep up jassi,  it makes him a bad immoral person, ergo....um...not sure what the logic is further...

Madeleine WAS abducted? But
Madeleines abduction was covered up by him? he took back handers some claim, for what???
He was involved? Oh yes, some say too
He planned from the start to scupper the investigation and planned on writing a book
Lets not forget he got his colleagues to go to a mortuary and wipe cadaver scent off bodies on their hankies and go back and sprinkle it all over the Mccanns flat

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The lot of them need sending to Coventry for psychiatric problems


it's thoroughly disgusting this  policeman has been crucified by the British press, the Mccanns  and their pr machinery and acolytes not forgetting the awful m3 and their agenda in this case just for standing up for himself, well, karma is all I can think of and it really can't come soon enough


Eta and If there's any truth n Gordon brown ringing to ask if he has been sacked yet, well, karma struck there mr brown didn't it.
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Offline VIXTE

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #398 on: February 15, 2014, 10:23:45 PM »
Why is this important to you?

Apart from his book being an unproven thesis.. it is the core that he did it for the making money scheme. He used Madeleine's name for a personal gain.

IMO that is a morally filthy gesture.

Redblossom

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Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #399 on: February 15, 2014, 10:27:11 PM »
Apart from his book being an unproven thesis.. it is the core that he did it for the making money scheme. He used Madeleine's name for a personal gain.

IMO that is a morally filthy gesture.

Well you will have to "prove" your thesis it was done for money wont you?

Or is it just an "opinion"

maybe a morally filthy one too hey? next time you are attacked by the powers that be don't tell me you wouldn't stand up for yourself unless you condone bullying and ruining people's reputations and lives

 >@@(*&)

IMO Mr Amaral was very courageous then and up to now.....who wants to give in to bullies? Be silenced, gagged etc, the nazis stalin and the like were destroyed in the last century please don't help bring them back

bit disgusted and scared actually at atoning of these practices so logging off

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Offline VIXTE

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #400 on: February 15, 2014, 10:44:20 PM »
Well you will have to "prove" your thesis it was done for money wont you?

Or is it just an "opinion"

maybe a morally filthy one too hey? next time you are attacked by the powers that be don't tell me you wouldn't stand up for yourself unless you condone bullying and ruining people's reputations and lives

 >@@(*&)

IMO Mr Amaral was very courageous then and up to now.....who wants to give in to bullies? Be silenced, gagged etc, the nazis stalin and the like were destroyed in the last century please don't help bring them back

bit disgusted and scared actually at atoning of these practices so logging off

What is is done for then? For the world peace?  @)(++(*
Earnings donated to a charity?
Or maybe for an internet character building, designed to earn admiration of the hormonal women?  @)(++(*

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #401 on: February 16, 2014, 12:08:53 AM »
UK experts had nothing to do with the writing of Amarals book - which is full of half-truths,  spiteful innuendo and downright lies.
Mr Amaral states in his book (chapter 16) that Mark Harrison recommended deploying a cadaver dog in 5A.
It's not a half truth or innuendo or lie, it is a fact which is easily verified
Without that recommendation by that UK expert, Mr Amaral's book would not exist.

Offline Benice

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #402 on: February 16, 2014, 09:01:10 AM »
Mr Amaral states in his book (chapter 16) that Mark Harrison recommended deploying a cadaver dog in 5A.
It's not a half truth or innuendo or lie, it is a fact which is easily verified
Without that recommendation by that UK expert, Mr Amaral's book would not exist.

There would have been no book either - if Amara had understood/accepted the FSS reports relating to the dogs' alerts. imo

His description of how the dogs work is completely wrong too.    He conveniently forgets to mention that Eddie alerted to blood as well as cadaverscent and that is the true reason why he was always sent in first  - or that both dogs alerted to blood from living people.   It's clear from his book that he wants the reader to believe Eddie only alerted to cadaverscent - and that any alerts at all from either dog could only mean one thing i.e. a dead body.  That is not true.    This was clearly shown when the material alerted to by both dogs on the key fob was identified as Gerry's blood.    GM is alive and kicking.

Grossly misleading quote from his book:-

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Eddie is always the first to be brought onto a site. Once he has discerned the odour that he knows so well, it's Keela's turn to go into action, on the lookout for the slightest whiff of blood. The simultaneous presence of the two elements in a given place - blood and cadaver odours - is taken to indicate that a body has been there and that it's probably there that the death occurred.
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The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #403 on: February 16, 2014, 09:11:51 AM »
There would have been no book either - if Amara had understood/accepted the FSS reports relating to the dogs' alerts. imo

His description of how the dogs work is completely wrong too.    He conveniently forgets to mention that Eddie alerted to blood as well as cadaverscent and that is the true reason why he was always sent in first  - or that both dogs alerted to blood from living people.   It's clear from his book that he wants the reader to believe Eddie only alerted to cadaverscent - and that any alerts at all from either dog could only mean one thing i.e. a dead body.  That is not true.    This was clearly shown when the material alerted to by both dogs on the key fob was identified as Gerry's blood.    GM is alive and kicking.

Grossly misleading quote from his book:-

Quote
Eddie is always the first to be brought onto a site. Once he has discerned the odour that he knows so well, it's Keela's turn to go into action, on the lookout for the slightest whiff of blood. The simultaneous presence of the two elements in a given place - blood and cadaver odours - is taken to indicate that a body has been there and that it's probably there that the death occurred.
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As I have said many times amaral did not understand the dogs alerts...a pretty poor show considering his position. Not only that most of the posters who condemn the Mcanns have believed what he said. There would probably be a lot less posters falsely condemning the McCanns if it was not for amaral getting it wrong.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?
« Reply #404 on: February 16, 2014, 10:04:48 AM »
As I have said many times amaral did not understand the dogs alerts...a pretty poor show considering his position. Not only that most of the posters who condemn the Mcanns have believed what he said. There would probably be a lot less posters falsely condemning the McCanns if it was not for amaral getting it wrong.

I suspected the pair from as early as the 4th May 2007 press appeal.

No matter how hard Kate strained she couldn't get a single real tear drop to come out for the cameras.

I've seen better acting on Eastenders.

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