Was Gonçalo Amaral fair game given the content of his book?

[Benice]

Most of the crime in the Algarve area is/was property crime.   This is a very peaceful part of the world.

Yes -  I believe Amarals conviction for fraud concerned property.

[Silkywhiskers]

Yes -  I believe Amarals conviction for fraud concerned property.

Amaral's conviction for fraud?

Ok.

Well whatever.  Amaral was NEVER the only investigator in the Algarve, just the figurehead.  Or some would say, the fall guy.

Did he ever serve a sentence for any of his "convictions"? 

The Supreme court in Portugal has definitively stated his book is a faithful recitation of the investigation.

[Benice]

Amaral's conviction for fraud?

Ok.

Well whatever.  Amaral was NEVER the only investigator in the Algarve, just the figurehead.  Or some would say, the fall guy.

Did he ever serve a sentence for any of his "convictions"? 

The Supreme court in Portugal has definitively stated his book is a faithful recitation of the investigation.

Dear me - no wonder you believe the McCanns are guilty if you believe that load of misinformation.

Amaral  is a proven liar, a fraudster, and also an adulterer.   Some hero eh?

[Silkywhiskers]

Dear me - no wonder you believe the McCanns are guilty if you believe that load of misinformation.

Amaral  is a proven liar, a fraudster, and also an adulterer.   Some hero eh?

They dont all come with Superman capes on.

As he's the only one championing the TRUTH, (the Supreme Court agrees with him) then he is a hero.

Attractive, intelligent, articulate individuals can also be as evil as the day is long.

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[Silkywhiskers]

It made my day 

For a moment I thought Amaral was described as attractive

Has someone forgotten to take their red pills 

I think he is attractive.

Not as attractive as Kate of course (who is?).

Intelligence is attractive.

The ability to add 2 + 2 and come up with 4 is not particularly common, especially when the word McCann is involved.

How these people can be so "well educated", and still have no more sense than the average turnip, is beyond me.  Even rats care for their young when they are tiny and helpless.

PS do you think Kate the GP prescribed her patients a night out drinking alone if their babies cried too much?

[Benice]

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The fact that it was the McCanns decision which unwittingly enabled a situation where their daughter could be abducted, doesn't give ANYONE the right to enter their apartment and take their child.  The abductor(s) are the only criminals in this case.   I don't see anyone blaming the Needham family for unwittingly enabling a situation where Ben was able to be abducted.  I hear no shrieks of  'He should never have been left on his own' in his case.   They put the blame firmly on the abductors - and rightly so.   

You might as well be saying that if your house is burglared when you go out - it's your own fault because it was your decision to out in the first place - and so you mustn't blame the burglar.      Absolute nonsense IMO.

[stephen25000]

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The fact that it was the McCanns decision which unwittingly enabled a situation where their daughter could be abducted, doesn't give ANYONE the right to enter their apartment and take their child.  The abductor(s) are the only criminals in this case.   I don't see anyone blaming the Needham family for unwittingly enabling a situation where Ben was able to be abducted.  I hear no shrieks of  'He should never have been left on his own' in his case.   They put the blame firmly on the abductors - and rightly so.   

You might as well be saying that if your house is burglared when you go out - it's your own fault because it was your decision to out in the first place - and so you mustn't blame the burglar.      Absolute nonsense IMO.

What abductors ?

Cite the evidence please.

As regards Mr. Amaral, as has been often said, he tried to help solve the case.

No more, no less.

[Benice]

What abductors ?

Cite the evidence please.

As regards Mr. Amaral, as has been often said, he tried to help solve the case.

No more, no less.

The evidence has been cited many times Stephen. The fact that you don't want to believe it is irrelevant to SY - who obviously do believe it.

Amaral  tried to get a 'result' - at any price IMO.   If he had done his job properly and concluded that having explored every avenue with their somewhat limited resources - they had not been able to solve the case - then no-one would have criticised him IMO.

However, his approach seemed to be an attempted  mirror image of a previous case.  i.e.  He made his mind up who the perpetrators were first - and then tried to make the evidence fit his thesis- to the exclusion of everything else.  You only have to read his book to see that.      He failed miserably because he was always barking up the wrong tree IMO. 

His decision to never meet or speak to the McCanns remains incomprehensible to me.     His efforts to try to hide that fact  in his book are dishonest IMO and proves he had no scruples about conning his readers into believing that his account was a 'first hand' account - when that could not be further from the truth.  But no doubt  'first hand 'accounts sell more books than second/third/hand accounts.

[Admin]

Yes -  I believe Amarals conviction for fraud concerned property.

According to the reports there was no fraud conviction.  It was a civil case brought by his brother.  The outcome being that Dr Amaral and his ex wife had to refund equity in property to his brother.

The only conviction that we are aware of relating to Dr Amaral is that in the Cipriano case and was a suspended sentence of 18 months.

[Benice]

According to the reports there was no fraud conviction.  It wasa civil case brought by his brother.

I stand corrected.     However IIRC the case against him was proved  - as fraudulent actions on his part against his brother were established in court.     If that is wrong I will be happy to retract.

[stephen25000]

The evidence has been cited many times Stephen. The fact that you don't want to believe it is irrelevant to SY - who obviously do believe it.

Amaral  tried to get a 'result' - at any price IMO.   If he had done his job properly and concluded that having explored every avenue with their somewhat limited resources - they had not been able to solve the case - then no-one would have criticised him IMO.

However, his approach seemed to be an attempted  mirror image of a previous case.  i.e.  He made his mind up who the perpetrators were first - and then tried to make the evidence fit his thesis- to the exclusion of everything else.  You only have to read his book to see that.      He failed miserably because he was always barking up the wrong tree IMO. 

His decision to never meet or speak to the McCanns remains incomprehensible to me.     His efforts to try to hide that fact  in his book are dishonest IMO and proves he had no scruples about conning his readers into believing that his account was a 'first hand' account - when that could not be further from the truth.  But no doubt  'first hand 'accounts sell more books than second/third/hand accounts.

Incorrect.

There is not one piece of evidence as you would call it, that would stand up in court of abduction.

No forensics.

A child being carried in someone's arms is not evidence of abduction.

The mccanns accounts and associates are not consistent.

The claim of km outside the Portuguese court to the effect, 'we were there' when questioned by the Portuguese reporter is derisory, how could they be there,if they were at the Tapas bar ?

[Estuarine]

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id344.html

Well worth reading again from alpha to omega!

[Luz]

Dear me - no wonder you believe the McCanns are guilty if you believe that load of misinformation.

Amaral  is a proven liar, a fraudster, and also an adulterer.   Some hero eh?

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Amaral is nothing that you accuse him of.
But the fact that the little McCann Cult felt the need to create such lies about the man that was investigating the false "abduction" of a child says it all.

[Eleanor]

Lying in Court was probably the most serious, although Amaral's brother might not agree.  After that, Adultery would be no more than one might expect.
Of course he is "Fair Game" with his track record.  And all proven and documented.  What did he expect?  Or does Free Speach only work for the likes of him in Portugal?

[ferryman]

Lying in Court was probably the most serious, although Amaral's brother might not agree.  After that, Adultery would be no more than one might expect.
Of course he is "Fair Game" with his track record.  And all proven and documented.  What did he expect?  Or does Free Speach only work for the likes of him in Portugal?

Of greatest significance about the adultery was its aftermath, the abusive phone calls and the golden bullet death threat.

Nice.

And Amaral is defending his honour?