Poll

Did leaving three very young children alone constitute responsible parenting?

Yes, reasonable and adequate checks were put in place.
7 (20%)
No, young children should never be left on their own.
27 (77.1%)
Undecided.
1 (2.9%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Voting closed: February 14, 2014, 11:51:39 AM

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Offline Mr Gray

What's the point of any polls on this forum?  It is seething with avid Mccann [ censored word ]s and very few  Mccann supporters.  The poll is one sided before it begins.

This forum is basically a strongly pro Amaral, anti Mccann, anti Cipriano forum.

No point whatsoever in a poll.  The result is guarenteed before it is started.

I thought they were joking

Offline jassi

Maybe we should have a 'who gives a damn about Dr Amaral' poll too. Cause I certainly don't, yet I'm constantly accused of idolising him!

It's you and your ilk who seem obsessed with the guy.

Absolutely spot on.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

  • Guest
Maybe we should have a 'who gives a damn about Dr Amaral' poll too. Cause I certainly don't, yet I'm constantly accused of idolising him!

It's you and your ilk who seem obsessed with the guy.

You've got it in one.

Redblossom

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Absolutely spot on.

Seconded, its their only defence, how sad

Offline John

I have added a poll as requested.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

CPN

  • Guest
I have added a poll as requested.

Where is a simple "no" without any qualifications?  The questions are (to me) too complicated

Offline colombosstogey

Can we put to rest its ok to do the Listening Service, as years ago they did it in Butlins and the like, blah blah blah.

In those days it was a different world.

Also Mark Warner did not offer Listening Service at PDL because they felt it wasnt appropriate as the apartments were too wide spread and exposed.

ITS OUT there if people really want to read about it.

The thing is this. We have no idea how often the children were being checked on. NONE.

Before she went missing....the one thing we do know is a child was heard crying for over an hour and above this flat was Mrs Fenn. She could hear the child so the assumption is it was one of the McCanns children. As the child was calling for DADDY one would assume it was Maddy.

Then we have Mrs McCann herself confirming that one night the child was woken up and her parents didnt come to the children, so was it two nights they were crying. The second night Mrs Fenn was out....

We keep being told that the McCanns were in sight on the apartments. They had their backs to the apartments, it was dark, and there was bushes, trees etc blocking their view, and walls too....so they could NEVER see the children. ALSO THE FRONT DOOR was located the other side of the block well away from sight.....and more of a chance that this door would have been used for burglary etc, as it was in the dark away from the lights of Tapas and OC...

In ALL my years on this planet I have never heard of anyone leaving children in a holiday apartment and going out for dinner EVER.

In ALL my years on this planet I have never heard of a child being abducted by a stranger from a holiday apartment with parents in situ.....

What makes me so mad about all this, is that the children could have been taken to the night creche it was available.

What was the point of being on holiday if you had to get up constantly to check on children....

Listening service well in hotels people do it but its NOT SAFE. Because people do it does not make it right.

Also the McCanns being medical professionals should be the ones to set examples......

I would have possibly forgiven them if they just once stood up and said, we left them on their own, IT WASNT THE RIGHT THING TO DO, and please learn by our tragic mistake...............no they EXCUSED IT as normal we all do it....

No we dont.


I am sick to death of reading about it.

It was never responsible parenting.


Offline John

I have simplified the poll along the lines requested.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

CPN

  • Guest
I have simplified the poll along the lines requested.

Thank you, John!  ?{)(** 

Offline Eleanor

I have simplified the poll along the lines requested.

Well that has fixed that nicely.  Just when The McCann Supporters were winning hands down.

Why am I not surprised?  Just when I thought this Poll might be fair.

How many times do I have to vote before my vote is accepted?  Three times now.  Any more for any more?

CPN

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Re: Did leaving three very young children alone constitute responsible parenting?
« Reply #100 on: February 04, 2014, 12:30:17 PM »
Well that has fixed that nicely.  Just when The McCann Supporters were winning hands down.

Why am I not surprised?  Just when I thought this Poll might be fair.

How many times do I have to vote before my vote is accepted?  Three times now.  Any more for any more?

They were "winning hands down" Eleanor, because there was no simple question that those who think that leaving the children, as the McCanns did, was not responsible parenting - which was the question - could respond to; so many, myself included, had not voted.  Now there is that option so everyone can vote one way or the other (or indeed undecided).

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did leaving three very young children alone constitute responsible parenting?
« Reply #101 on: February 04, 2014, 12:39:51 PM »
Think this says it all.

« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 12:41:52 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: Did leaving three very young children alone constitute responsible parenting?
« Reply #102 on: February 04, 2014, 12:40:01 PM »
Well that has fixed that nicely.  Just when The McCann Supporters were winning hands down.

Why am I not surprised?  Just when I thought this Poll might be fair.

How many times do I have to vote before my vote is accepted?  Three times now.  Any more for any more?

Not sure how anyone can say the checking was adequate as she disappeared, therefore the checking was inadequate, however good they might have thought it  to have been.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 12:49:51 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Did leaving three very young children alone constitute responsible parenting?
« Reply #103 on: February 04, 2014, 12:44:31 PM »
They were "winning hands down" Eleanor, because there was no simple question that those who think that leaving the children, as the McCanns did, was not responsible parenting - which was the question - could respond to; so many, myself included, had not voted.  Now there is that option so everyone can vote one way or the other (or indeed undecided).

So how many times do we have to do this to get the right result?  How many times is The Pollster allowed to change the rules?  Does The Pollster know what he is doing?

This would be laughed off anywhere else.  The question I answered twice was quite simple.  But do carry on now it has been fixed.

CPN

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Re: Did leaving three very young children alone constitute responsible parenting?
« Reply #104 on: February 04, 2014, 12:49:47 PM »
Think this says it all.


And, as usual, total concentration on "abduction" and no indication of any thinking about the other dangers for such young children