After 3 years and several million £'s - is the investigation going anywhere?

[Estuarine]

Small car looks like volkswagen beetle, dark, overcrowded, more than one car that looks the same

Very unobtrusive in a place where Renault and Peugeot rule that end of the market. Not impossible but were you planning a heist or snatch would you use two cars that will stick out like an alligator in your bath. I think not. What is the woman on?
What do Nostradamus and Old Mother Shipton say about it?

[j.rob]

Yes I agree, the fact there was that much paperwork to trawl through shows me the PJ did do a thorough job.

The Portugese were suspicious of the McCann abduction story from the start. And who can blame them? They must had been astonished when the media descended along with an army of officials. Right from the very beginning, they must have smelt a giant rat.

I am sure they would have wanted to make the McCanns suspects from the word go, but were hampered in their task. The McCanns over-friendly relationship with Leicstershire police was more than unhelpful and served to distort the enquiry.

From the outset, the McCanns were critical of the Portugese police. Now, why might that be, I wonder? Why did the need their buddies from Leicstershire police to come along and hold their hands?

The more I learn about this case the more despicable I find the behaviour of the McCan parents and their supporters. Their actions and behaviours have done nothing to 'help' Madeleine, in my opinion. They have been entirely designed to help themselves.

[jassi]

The Portugese were suspicious of the McCann abduction story from the start. And who can blame them? They must had been astonished when the media descended along with an army of officials. Right from the very beginning, they must have smelt a giant rat.

I am sure they would have wanted to make the McCanns suspects from the word go, but were hampered in their task. The McCanns over-friendly relationship with Leicstershire police was more than unhelpful and served to distort the enquiry.

From the outset, the McCanns were critical of the Portugese police. Now, why might that be, I wonder? Why did the need their buddies from Leicstershire police to come along and hold their hands?

The more I learn about this case the more despicable I find the behaviour of the McCan parents and their supporters. Their actions and behaviours have done nothing to 'help' Madeleine, in my opinion. They have been entirely designed to help themselves.

Of course. That's been their aim from the beginning.

[sadie]

The Portugese were suspicious of the McCann abduction story from the start. And who can blame them? They must had been astonished when the media descended along with an army of officials. Right from the very beginning, they must have smelt a giant rat.

I am sure they would have wanted to make the McCanns suspects from the word go, but were hampered in their task. The McCanns over-friendly relationship with Leicstershire police was more than unhelpful and served to distort the enquiry.

From the outset, the McCanns were critical of the Portugese police. Now, why might that be, I wonder? Why did the need their buddies from Leicstershire police to come along and hold their hands?

The more I learn about this case the more despicable I find the behaviour of the McCan parents and their supporters. Their actions and behaviours have done nothing to 'help' Madeleine, in my opinion. They have been entirely designed to help themselves.

From the outset, the McCanns were critical of the Portugese police.

That's not how I remember it j.rob.

I can remember how in the early days, I got very frustrated that The Mccanns kept praising the PJ .... well not exactly priasing them, but supporting them.  A long trime before they became publicly upset by the behaviour of the PJ, I had noticed disturbing things about the PJ's treatment of the Mccanns ... and i was wondering why the Mccanns still seemed to trust them. 

I wonder just how soon the Mccanns started wondering why the PJ were treating them in such cavalier way?   TBH, I wonder if they were noticing the misbehavioiur of the police, but decided that the best way to get co-operation from the PJ was to praise them.  Were they just being Diplomatic ?

[VIXTE]

Looks to me like they used a flying saucer with wheels! Maybe it also smells of meat like the butcher suspect no1? Hey maybe the meat was pork? That would explain what Eddie smelt?

This is not a witness statement, it is a psychic vision.. so ...mmm.. not sure.. but mentioning of the the laundry is scary!

Although this woman is not a classic psychic, she is an energy healer which is now even used by NHS and her drawings are some kind of art.. and she did guess in Joana Yeates case.. other cases I did not follow..

Once I met a poet who was unknowingly making predictions in his poems he wrote.. he got so scared, he stopped writing them..

[Redblossom]

It seems all too convenient wasn't it that the only GNR patrol were way out in the sticks n the edge if their patrol area.   It would be interesting to know if anything came of that inquiry or was it a hoax.

Problem with this theory is that the abductor KNEW what time child was found missing and also when police will have been called, non starter imo

[Redblossom]

Very unobtrusive in a place where Renault and Peugeot rule that end of the market. Not impossible but were you planning a heist or snatch would you use two cars that will stick out like an alligator in your bath. I think not. What is the woman on?
What do Nostradamus and Old Mother Shipton say about it?

LOL..lot alot, in fact nothing

Looks to me like they used a flying saucer with wheels! Maybe it also smells of meat like the butcher suspect no1? Hey maybe the meat was pork? That would explain what Eddie smelt?

Good spot!!!


 

Sad

[Redblossom]

The Portugese were suspicious of the McCann abduction story from the start. And who can blame them? They must had been astonished when the media descended along with an army of officials. Right from the very beginning, they must have smelt a giant rat.

I am sure they would have wanted to make the McCanns suspects from the word go, but were hampered in their task. The McCanns over-friendly relationship with Leicstershire police was more than unhelpful and served to distort the enquiry.

From the outset, the McCanns were critical of the Portugese police. Now, why might that be, I wonder? Why did the need their buddies from Leicstershire police to come along and hold their hands?

The more I learn about this case the more despicable I find the behaviour of the McCan parents and their supporters. Their actions and behaviours have done nothing to 'help' Madeleine, in my opinion. They have been entirely designed to help themselves.

They felt they had to direct it all themselves from the off...began with Rachel oldfield ringing BBC mate then Payne emailing sky all that night or soon after

hark at Gerrys brother here saying "if the police want to work with us thats fantastic" ! Not sure what "initiative" he was talking about there though

And yes, mccanns only dissed the PJ via proxy!

[VIXTE]

From the outset, the McCanns were critical of the Portugese police.

That's not how I remember it j.rob.

I can remember how in the early days, I got very frustrated that The Mccanns kept praising the PJ .... well not exactly priasing them, but supporting them.  A long trime before they became publicly upset by the behaviour of the PJ, I had noticed disturbing things about the PJ's treatment of the Mccanns ... and i was wondering why the Mccanns still seemed to trust them. 

I wonder just how soon the Mccanns started wondering why the PJ were treating them in such cavalier way?   TBH, I wonder if they were noticing the misbehavioiur of the police, but decided that the best way to get co-operation from the PJ was to praise them.  Were they just being Diplomatic ?

The first time I noticed antagonism between the McCanns and the PJ was when the PJ would not allow bringing the UK search dogs into Portugal.
The articles in UK papers of the PJ not securing the crime scene and Rose's article about Amaral did not help either.
McCanns got all the blame but IMO they did what they were advised to do..like how to behave in front of the camera etc..its all work of the UK advisors they got..

[Luz]

Yes.
After 3 Prime Ministers got personally tangled in that web - never seen before - and more than 6 millions of hard earned taxpayers money was wasted in funding and resources for a group of 3 dozens of SY senior officers, dedicated to read files of an investigation already made and reviewed, the outcome is necessarily a whitewash.

No way the McCann would ever be brought to justice because UK has to keep face after the circus it has offered the world after all these years. And as there is no abductor, probably a negotiation is going on, in the attempt to throw PT under the bus, as it is practice with other countries with lower economic strength.

[Benice]

Yes.
After 3 Prime Ministers got personally tangled in that web - never seen before - and more than 6 millions of hard earned taxpayers money was wasted in funding and resources for a group of 3 dozens of SY senior officers, dedicated to read files of an investigation already made and reviewed, the outcome is necessarily a whitewash.

No way the McCann would ever be brought to justice because UK has to keep face after the circus it has offered the world after all these years. And as there is no abductor, probably a negotiation is going on, in the attempt to throw PT under the bus, as it is practice with other countries with lower economic strength.

I am a Tax payer and I do not begrudge a single penny of my money being spent on Madeleine.  Even if no firm conclusions are arrived at - there is no doubt in my mind that much will have been learned which will greatly aid our police in the future when dealing with similar cases - and would therefore also enhance the chances of any abducted child of being found.    And if they share their findings with other countries - that can also only be for the good.

Neither do I begrudge a single penny of the £3m spent on the search for April Jones, and I would welcome any similar enquiry to that of Madeleine McCann being undertaken in the Ben Needham case - no matter how much it cost.

The Portuguese have re-opened the case.  They are not investigating the McCanns.  Perhaps you should have more faith in your own PJ and be more concerned about abducted children than you appear to be about money.