Exploring the reasons and motivation behind Portuguese re-opening of the case.

[EnolaStraight]

Madeleine disappeared in 2007 and you don't have to go too far further in the past to see serious organisational and investigative mistakes being made by British police. The Soham case was in 2002, and that's just one example.

British police do have better PR though, that is definitely true (and a media that rarely asks many questions). The reality that lies behind the PR though isn't as brilliant as you're making out.

And how quickly was Ian Huntley detected and charged despite lying through his teeth and refusing to cooperate. The only errors I am aware of were ones of recording previous offences and accessing those. I don't think there were any actual organisational or investigative mistakes- merely a less than comprehensive recording system for general crime.

[Mr Gray]

When I started out doing what I do I used seven figure log tables and a slide rule. We then had mains powered calculators wheeled around on a trolley, followed by mains powered desk calculators followed by battery powered desk calculators, main frame computers and finally desk top and lap top PC's. None of them allowed me to my job better than I did with the log tables and slide rule. I could do it quicker and retrieve data faster but as for doing it better NO. If you don't know what you are looking at no amount of whizzy gadgets will help you.

In many professions new technology has completely changed modalities...certainly in Gerry's profession angioplasty has revolutionised the early treatment of heart attacks....I'm sure you aren't a luddite but you are sounding like one

[Lyall]

And how quickly was Ian Huntley detected and charged despite lying through his teeth and refusing to cooperate. The only errors I am aware of were ones of recording previous offences and accessing those. I don't think there were any actual organisational or investigative mistakes- merely a less than comprehensive recording system for general crime.

It wasn't just that, it was the problem of communication between different forces (though that was spun away over the years. We assume now that things are done better).

[Lyall]

You can kid yourself all you like but it is still obvious that the original investigation was a complete cock up.  Even The PJ think this.  Why bother having Reviews if there was nothing to find?

You're overlooking an obvious fact. The Portuguese made the records of the investigation public: this never happens in the UK does it. Why?

[Estuarine]

In many professions new technology has completely changed modalities...certainly in Gerry's profession angioplasty has revolutionised the early treatment of heart attacks....I'm sure you aren't a luddite but you are sounding like one

And as usual you are showing your ignorance in the way you use the term Luddite. I suggest you check thoroughly who they were and what they stood for ...... you usually have Google open when you are on here to dazzle us with your ability.

[Eleanor]

You're overlooking an obvious fact. The Portuguese made the records of the investigation public: this never happens in the UK does it. Why?

I have no idea why Portugal does this, but you wouldn't catch me making a statement against anyone in Portugal after what I have seen this last seven years.

[Mr Gray]

And as usual you are showing your ignorance in the way you use the term Luddite. I suggest you check thoroughly who they were and what they stood for ...... you usually have Google open when you are on here to dazzle us with your ability.

I don't have to check google the luddites smashed the machines...new technology...if my second year history lessons serve me well...once more you try to insult me...shows you are intimidated

[Lyall]

I have no idea why Portugal does this, but you wouldn't catch me making a statement against anyone in Portugal after what I have seen this last seven years.

That's a different issue re: anonymity. But the main issue is that we have very limited FOI laws in the UK, and particularly with regards to police. Is this healthy? If our justice system is so great why is it still shrouded in secrecy?

[Mr Gray]

And as usual you are showing your ignorance in the way you use the term Luddite. I suggest you check thoroughly who they were and what they stood for ...... you usually have Google open when you are on here to dazzle us with your ability.

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luddite

1. One who fears technology (or new technology, as they seem pleased with how things currently are...why can't everything just be the same?)

2. A group led by Mr. Luddite durring the industrial revolution who beleived machines would cause workers wages to be decreased and ended up burning a number of factories in protest

A luddite generally claims things were "just fine" back in the day, and refuses to replace/update failing equipment/software/computers on the basis that they were just fine 10 years ago.


I think the part in red sums up your post......don't you

can I refer that to an own goal by you ...or will you try to tell me Im wrong on that as well


don't make it 2 nil

[VIXTE]

I am going to eat my hat if there were no arrests very soon.. max a month from now..

[jassi]

That's very brave of you.  Will you put it up on Youtube for us ?

[stephen25000]

I am going to eat my hat if there were no arrests very soon.. max a month from now..

Are you Derek Acorah in disguise ? 

[Estuarine]

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luddite

1. One who fears technology (or new technology, as they seem pleased with how things currently are...why can't everything just be the same?)

2. A group led by Mr. Luddite durring the industrial revolution who beleived machines would cause workers wages to be decreased and ended up burning a number of factories in protest

A luddite generally claims things were "just fine" back in the day, and refuses to replace/update failing equipment/software/computers on the basis that they were just fine 10 years ago.


I think the part in red sums up your post......don't you

can I refer that to an own goal by you ...or will you try to tell me Im wrong on that as well


don't make it 2 nil

Your history is dreadful (who is Mr Luddite? )  as is your comprehension of the English language. Get a decent history book out of the library and read on the Knitters of Nottinghamshire and the Carpet Weavers of Worcestershire. When you have I will debate Luddism with you until then don't show your ignorance on a topic you clearly know little about. Also I never said I did not use new technology I merely said it did not enable me to my job better just quicker maybe.

[Lyall]

Mr Luddite? >@@(*&)

[Mr Gray]

Your history is dreadful (who is Mr Luddite? )  as is your comprehension of the English language. Get a decent history book out of the library and read on the Knitters of Nottinghamshire and the Carpet Weavers of Worcestershire. When you have I will debate Luddism with you until then don't show your ignorance on a topic you clearly know little about. Also I never said I did not use new technology I merely said it did not enable me to my job better just quicker maybe.

oh dear...a nerve is touched