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Offline Angelo222

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #90 on: February 22, 2014, 03:46:42 PM »
depends what your definition of cleared is...in one sense they cant be cleared as they have never been charged

Very simply.  Cleared of ANY involvement in the disappearance of their daughter.  They are the LAST KNOWN people to have seen her and seen her alive.  Thus they will always form a central role in this case irrespective of what Redwood says in public.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #91 on: February 22, 2014, 03:54:14 PM »
21st July 2008

McCanns cleared over Madeleine disappearance

The parents of missing Madeleine McCann have today been formally cleared of any involvement in their daughter's disappearance.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/44826/McCanns-cleared-over-Madeleine-disappearance

More lies from the Daily Liar.   Lifting the arguido status in no way shape or form clears them.  As those who are familiar with Portuguese Law have already informed us, the arguido status can be reinstated at any time.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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AnneGuedes

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #92 on: February 22, 2014, 03:55:20 PM »
Redwood has never used the words cleared wrt the McCanns because he cannot do so.  Until such time as it has been determined what happened to Madeleine the tapas 9 including her parents will always be in the equation.
Everybody will admit any conclusion by the Justice authority, even if it is abduction by unidentified stranger, because nobody here believes that the Justice system would cheat the people and conclude without evidence.
As Jassi remarks, the major problem for the McCanns (involvement of the TP7 isn't plausible) is the impossibility of being really cleared of suspicion until someone else is convicted of whatever crime has been committed.

Offline jassi

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #93 on: February 22, 2014, 03:58:09 PM »
I am beginning to wonder if convicting someone else, dead or alive, will ever be enough for some.  Even a live Madeleine might not do, especially if we aren't allowed to question her.  Although I suppose we could try.  A Thread entitled, "Questions for Madeleine", mayhap, as she is bound to be reading Forums.

I know what you mean. The evidence will have to be beyond all reasonable doubt, and even then I suppose some might claim a miscarriage of justice.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Redblossom

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #94 on: February 22, 2014, 03:59:22 PM »
That's a major problem for them - they can never really be cleared of suspicion until someone else is convicted of whatever crime has been committed. Putting the blame on a dead person isn't likely to wash, either.

Not if the only piece of "evidence" is that his mobile phone pinged in PDL that day/night

Eta, sorry, cross posted!


AnneGuedes

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #95 on: February 22, 2014, 04:09:39 PM »
Not if the only piece of "evidence" is that his mobile phone pinged in PDL that day/night

Eta, sorry, cross posted!
No judiciary entity could claim that the lack of evidence produced by the cellphones lead reveals that the abductors were professional ones, without the planet bursting into laughter.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #96 on: February 22, 2014, 04:16:20 PM »
Very simply.  Cleared of ANY involvement in the disappearance of their daughter.  They are the LAST KNOWN people to have seen her and seen her alive.  Thus they will always form a central role in this case irrespective of what Redwood says in public.

It would be fair to say that the AG report cleared them of any involvement in the disappearance of their daughter...As I have said before ..it depends what you mean by cleared..has Barry George been cleared...he hasn't been paid compensation because according to some reports he hasn't been found innocent enough...so you could say he hasn't been cleared..there is no legal mechanism that clears anyone... they certainly are in the clear at the moment

Redblossom

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #97 on: February 22, 2014, 04:20:23 PM »
No judiciary entity could claim that the lack of evidence produced by the cellphones lead reveals that the abductors were professional ones, without the planet bursting into laughter.

It will be interesting to see the result of Operation Grange either way and the PJ reopened case conclusion of course!


Estuarine

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #98 on: February 22, 2014, 04:25:20 PM »
It would be fair to say that the AG report cleared them of any involvement in the disappearance of their daughter...As I have said before ..it depends what you mean by cleared..has Barry George been cleared...he hasn't been paid compensation because according to some reports he hasn't been found innocent enough...so you could say he hasn't been cleared..there is no legal mechanism that clears anyone... they certainly are in the clear at the moment

Moment being the operative word!
I'll leave someone else to comment on what the AG report may or may not have said  8(>((

Offline Eleanor

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #99 on: February 22, 2014, 04:28:10 PM »
I very much doubt that the abductors, burglars or otherwise, actually know what happened to Madeleine, or where she is now.
Personally, I suspect that they will blame Tractorman for organizing the whole thing, and plead ignorance on the details.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #100 on: February 22, 2014, 04:28:54 PM »
Moment being the operative word!
I'll leave someone else to comment on what the AG report may or may not have said  8(>((

Posters have been saying for almost seven years that the McCanns would face charges...  they have been proved wrong for almost seven years...I  don't see things changing

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #101 on: February 22, 2014, 04:29:52 PM »
From the archiving Report, final comments.


Therefore, after all seen, analysed and duly pondered, with all that is left exposed, it is determined:
 
a) The archiving of the Process concerning arguido Robert James Queriol Eveleigh Murat, because there are no indications of the practise of any crime under the dispositions of article 277 number 1 of the Penal Process Code;
 
b) The archiving of the Process concerning arguidos Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Marie Healy, because there are no indications of the practise of any crime under the dispositions of article 277 number 1 of the Penal Process Code.
 
Article 277 number 3 of the Penal Process Code is to be fulfilled.
 
Under article 214 number 1 item a) of the Penal Process Code, the coercion measures that have been imposed on the arguidos are declared extinct.
 
Portimão, 21.07.08
 
The Republic's Prosecutor
 
(José de Magalhães e Menezes)
 
The Joint General Prosecutor
 
(João Melchior Gomes)
 
in: Processo 201/07.0 GALGS - Volume XVII - pages 4639-4649 (Public Prosecutor's Archiving Dispatch)


www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html#adi9


The Archiving Report states in respect of Mr Murat and the McCanns that there is no evidence of criminal activity.  The unanswered question is will this remain so?
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Redblossom

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #102 on: February 22, 2014, 04:30:14 PM »
I very much doubt that the abductors, burglars or otherwise, actually know what happened to Madeleine, or where she is now.
Personally, I suspect that they will blame Tractorman for organizing the whole thing, and plead ignorance on the details.

very astute!


 8@??)(

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #103 on: February 22, 2014, 04:35:11 PM »

The Archiving Report states in respect of Mr Murat and the McCanns that there is no evidence of criminal activity.  The unanswered question is will this remain so?

So at the moment they are in the clear..my view is that if no evidence was found to accuse them then...it is unlikely that it will be found in the future

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #104 on: February 22, 2014, 04:36:52 PM »
So at the moment they are in the clear..my view is that if no evidence was found to accuse them then...it is unlikely that it will be found in the future

That evidence could include Madeleine herself if she is found.