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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2014, 04:38:47 PM »
That evidence could include Madeleine herself if she is found.

of course

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #106 on: February 22, 2014, 04:43:20 PM »
Moment being the operative word!
I'll leave someone else to comment on what the AG report may or may not have said  8(>((

I think "in the clear" are the operative words

Offline Montclair

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #107 on: February 22, 2014, 04:47:47 PM »
It would be fair to say that the AG report cleared them of any involvement in the disappearance of their daughter...As I have said before ..it depends what you mean by cleared..has Barry George been cleared...he hasn't been paid compensation because according to some reports he hasn't been found innocent enough...so you could say he hasn't been cleared..there is no legal mechanism that clears anyone... they certainly are in the clear at the moment

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You must then inform the judge presiding the libel trial. She has informed the witnesses on behalf of the McCanns, who claim that the parents were exonerated, that the archiving report is only evidence and not a judgement. And I believe that that bit of information came as a shock to some of the witnesses as they had been convinced by the parents that they had been "cleared".
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Redblossom

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #108 on: February 22, 2014, 04:52:59 PM »
So at the moment they are in the clear..my view is that if no evidence was found to accuse them then...it is unlikely that it will be found in the future

Stephen Lawrence case! Proves your view can be / IS in this case wrong


stephen25000

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #109 on: February 22, 2014, 04:56:45 PM »
Stephen Lawrence case! Proves your view can be / IS in this case wrong

Thanks for the reminder of that case Redblossom.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #110 on: February 22, 2014, 04:59:57 PM »
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You must then inform the judge presiding the libel trial. She has informed the witnesses on behalf of the McCanns, who claim that the parents were exonerated, that the archiving report is only evidence and not a judgement. And I believe that that bit of information came as a shock to some of the witnesses as they had been convinced by the parents that they had been "cleared".

As I have said before...it depends on the meaning of the word cleared...As far as I am aware there are several meanings...so it would be true to say...they have been cleared....and it would be true to say...they have not been cleared...both statements could be supported and taken to be true

The archiving report could never be a judgement as there was no trial..so I find your claims a little hard to believe

AnneGuedes

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Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #111 on: February 22, 2014, 05:00:38 PM »
It will be interesting to see the result of Operation Grange either way and the PJ reopened case conclusion of course!
There is the rub ! The only hope for the McCanns, there, is that all hypotheses listed in the old AG Report be suppressed for the benefit of abduction.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #112 on: February 22, 2014, 05:02:48 PM »
Stephen Lawrence case! Proves your view can be / IS in this case wrong

I said unlikely.....

The Lawrence case ..like every other case is unique....the daily mail actually accused the defendents in the paper and invited them to sue....I think the McCann case is very different..they have successfully sued

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #113 on: February 22, 2014, 05:04:42 PM »
There is the rub ! The only hope for the McCanns, there, is that all hypotheses listed in the old AG Report be suppressed for the benefit of abduction.

if you read the report it sates that there is no evidence...and all the evidence used to make the mccanns arguido was flawed...now theres the rub

Offline Eleanor

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #114 on: February 22, 2014, 05:05:11 PM »
"Cleared",  "Not Cleared", does it matter?  The McCanns are Not Suspects or Persons of Interest.  This means that they are not being investigated.  The hope that they might be is merely very nasty wishful thinking.  Or an attempt to excuse a seven year hate campaign which still leaves me reeling from shock.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #115 on: February 22, 2014, 05:07:13 PM »
"Cleared",  "Not Cleared", does it matter?  The McCanns are Not Suspects or Persons of Interest.  This means that they are not being investigated.  The hope that they might be is merely very nasty wishful thinking.  Or an attempt to excuse a seven year hate campaign which still leaves me reeling from shock.

I think that just about sums the situation up...a seven year hate campaign with no sign of ending...even though all the evidence initially used to condemn the mccanns has been shown to be flawed

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #116 on: February 22, 2014, 05:12:51 PM »
"Cleared",  "Not Cleared", does it matter?  The McCanns are Not Suspects or Persons of Interest.  This means that they are not being investigated.  The hope that they might be is merely very nasty wishful thinking.  Or an attempt to excuse a seven year hate campaign which still leaves me reeling from shock.

That's not the case Eleanor.  They are part of the investigation as parents of a missing child.  Curiously, the refusal by the tapas-9 to cooperate with the PJ and return for a reconstruction has yet to hit the fan.  The question of their reluctance to assist a missing child inquiry is something which has still to be addressed.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #117 on: February 22, 2014, 05:16:42 PM »
That's not the case Eleanor.  They are part of the investigation as parents of a missing child.  Curiously, the refusal by the tapas-9 to cooperate with the PJ and return for a reconstruction has yet to hit the fan.

The tapas 9 refused to cooperate with the original investigation IMO because they had no faith in the PJ...again imo quite rightly...

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #118 on: February 22, 2014, 05:18:38 PM »
That's not the case Eleanor.  They are part of the investigation as parents of a missing child.  Curiously, the refusal by the tapas-9 to cooperate with the PJ and return for a reconstruction has yet to hit the fan.  The question of their reluctance to assist a missing child inquiry is something which has still to be addressed.

 I have no idea if tractor man is important but perhaps the pj would have been better interviewing him rather than trying to frame the parents imo

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.
« Reply #119 on: February 22, 2014, 05:21:26 PM »
Condemned by whom?  A bunch of Internet Posters who get their rocks off cherry picking a load of garbage in the process of dealing with their very sad lives.

Present company excepted, I hope.

There is No Evidence that The McCanns ever harmed any of their children.  Even Portugal agrees with this.

According to the PJ report they were negligent in their duty of care towards a minor but since it wasn't intentional they weren't prosecuted.   The involvement of Rothley Social Services after their return to the UK was a consequence of this neglect.