Scotland Yard and the PJ have stated the McCanns are not suspects.

[Brietta]

I will give you simple one. To change the status of criminal prociding once is open you have to have the following

1. Evidence
2. Suspects
3.Formal criminal filing within investigative judge or public prosecutor depend on the legal system with the 2 previously mentioned .


As you now we are at stage 2 still pending, since it is expected to have more suspects or person of interest. Be patient pls. Even if you have all of the above it takes  a lot of paperwork to put them in the legal framework for proceeding. Justice will be served.

Very well explained, Bros, and at stage one having analysed all the available evidence Scotland Yard detectives believe Madeleine was abducted in "a criminal act by a stranger".

[pathfinder73]

Aoife was the only witness to say that the child being carried was wearing a long sleeved top; if the child was Madeleine, she could simply have been mistaken.

We really have no idea what the NSY take is on Smithman except that if they thought there was the slightest possibility he was Madeleine’s father, they would not have eliminated him from the inquiry.

 1)  Tannerman did not come forward to rule himself out after seven years of his very precise e-fits doing the rounds; NSY checked the crèche records to find him.

 2)  Mr Smith did not get a good look at the man’s face partly because of the poor lighting and it is widely accepted that his later identification of the man as Madeleine’s father has been withdrawn; just as the identification made by Richard and Susan McCluskey in exact circumstances has been discounted - ie they were influenced by images on the media. 
Both misidentifications made in good faith are on record as being unfounded, yet you continue to ignore this in one instance and not the other.  It has been discussed on the forum very recently so you are at risk of showing more than bias with your insistence.

I don't know why you think that in unsolved cases people are totally ruled out because they aren't. And in this case the timeline may change 

[Brietta]

Innocent creche dad completed an LC questionnaire in 2007.

'Bungling police had 'prime suspect' details for SIX YEARS without realising'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/editors-picks/madeleine-mccann-bungling-police-prime-2965027

Quite ... NSY found the evidence, not from crèche records but they found it nonetheless.   
 
- snipped - But the information was overlooked and the British holidaymaker remained the main focus of the hunt until this year when Scotland Yard detectives finally tracked him down.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/editors-picks/madeleine-mccann-bungling-police-prime-2965027#ixzz39Y1Svbz7
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But you have failed to explain why you continue to promote Mr Smith's erroneous change to his statement while totally ignoring the erroneous changes the McCluskeys made to their statements.  Mr McCluskey also made the change when he saw Madeleine's father exiting from the plane so the circumstances couldn't have been more similar (see below).
So why do you continue to post as you do?

 - snipped - I've agonised for days over whether or not to contact the police about this because it is a terrible thing to accuse somebody of. It had just not crossed my mind that the child?s parents could in some way be involved in her disappearance.

I have watched a good deal of news coverage about the McCanns over the past week or so. Another thing which has played on my mind is the coverage of Mr McCann walking off the aeroplane holding one of his young children. The way he was holding the child over his left shoulder reminded me of the man carrying the child from the white van in Portugal.

Although I could not describe the male I'd seen in Portugal because he had his back to me, it was the particular way Mr. McCann held the child that made me think. He held the child over his left shoulder with his left arm supporting the child?s weight.

(signed).......R McCluskey
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RI_Mc.htm

[Wonderfulspam]

Quite ... NSY found the evidence, not from crèche records but they found it nonetheless.   
 
- snipped - But the information was overlooked and the British holidaymaker remained the main focus of the hunt until this year when Scotland Yard detectives finally tracked him down.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/editors-picks/madeleine-mccann-bungling-police-prime-2965027#ixzz39Y1Svbz7
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But you have failed to explain why you continue to promote Mr Smith's erroneous change to his statement while totally ignoring the erroneous changes the McCluskeys made to their statements.  Mr McCluskey also made the change when he saw Madeleine's father exiting from the plane so the circumstances couldn't have been more similar (see below).
So why do you continue to post as you do?

 - snipped - I've agonised for days over whether or not to contact the police about this because it is a terrible thing to accuse somebody of. It had just not crossed my mind that the child?s parents could in some way be involved in her disappearance.

I have watched a good deal of news coverage about the McCanns over the past week or so. Another thing which has played on my mind is the coverage of Mr McCann walking off the aeroplane holding one of his young children. The way he was holding the child over his left shoulder reminded me of the man carrying the child from the white van in Portugal.

Although I could not describe the male I'd seen in Portugal because he had his back to me, it was the particular way Mr. McCann held the child that made me think. He held the child over his left shoulder with his left arm supporting the child?s weight.

(signed).......R McCluskey
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RI_Mc.htm

I've not seen SY appealing for information on white van man recently.

I've seen some e-fits of Smithman though, one of which happens to look a bit like Mr McCann, a bizzare & unfortunate coincidence it is too.

[Brietta]

I've not seen SY appealing for information on white van man recently.

I've seen some e-fits of Smithman though, one of which happens to look a bit like Mr McCann, a bizzare & unfortunate coincidence it is too.

Well then, I think we may have established that neither the PJ or the Met consider Dr Gerry McCann as a suspect in Madeleine's disappearance. I think we have also established exactly who you would like Smithman to be.
One belief based on all the evidence being sorted through since 2011; the other based on wishful thinking and an acknowledged error in identification.
Bit strange you should want to appear so intransigent. 

[Wonderfulspam]

Well then, I think we may have established that neither the PJ or the Met consider Dr Gerry McCann as a suspect in Madeleine's disappearance. I think we have also established exactly who you would like Smithman to be.
One belief based on all the evidence being sorted through since 2011; the other based on wishful thinking and an acknowledged error in identification.
Bit strange you should want to appear so intransigent.

Well of course, I'm entirely wrong aren't I.  SY are in possesion of evidence which proves an abduction occured & there in, that Kate & Gerry had absolutely no involvement whatsover in Madeleine's disappearance.

They can't say what it is though, that might cause the abductor to panic & maybe harm Maddie.

[Brietta]

Well of course, I'm entirely wrong aren't I.  SY are in possesion of evidence which proves an abduction occured & there in, that Kate & Gerry had absolutely no involvement whatsover in Madeleine's disappearance.

They can't say what it is though, that might cause the abductor to panic & maybe harm Maddie.

I don't think it is usual for the police to give a full account of everything which passes through their hands in the course of an investigation.
As you have said, it would be most helpful to a perpetrator whatever the case being worked and it is obviously in the public interes to have these people caught.

[faithlilly]

I don't think it is usual for the police to give a full account of everything which passes through their hands in the course of an investigation.
As you have said, it would be most helpful to a perpetrator whatever the case being worked and it is obviously in the public interes to have these people caught.

It would indeed Brietta.

Now please tell me again why you think SY are telling us the truth about the McCanns status ?

[ferryman]

It would indeed Brietta.

Now please tell me again why you think SY are telling us the truth about the McCanns status ?

Answering on Brietta's behalf, but perhaps for the same reason that they were telling the truth about Greg Reardon in the Joana Yeates murder enquiry, when (long before the case was solved) they commended Mr Reardon as a 'first class witness'.

[Alfred R Jones]

Perhaps Faithlilly would like to tell us why she thinks SY are LYING to the general public and why they have put 4 PT nationals through hell by linking them publicly to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, when all along they think it was the parents wot dunnit?

[faithlilly]

Perhaps Faithlilly would like to tell us why she thinks SY are LYING to the general public and why they have put 4 PT nationals through hell by linking them publicly to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, when all along they think it was the parents wot dunnit?

Redwood's statements with regard to the McCann's and their friend's status have always been in response to a direct question from a journalist. What would you expect him to say even if there was suspicions with regard to them ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Redwood's statements with regard to the McCann's and their friend's status have always been in response to a direct question from a journalist. What would you expect him to say even if there was suspicions with regard to them ?

You have ducked my question. 

[pathfinder73]

Perhaps Faithlilly would like to tell us why she thinks SY are LYING to the general public and why they have put 4 PT nationals through hell by linking them publicly to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, when all along they think it was the parents wot dunnit?

They have to cover all possibilities this time so come on down dead tractorman, smelly binman, OC employees, etc. Photo man may be next. The McCanns don't need to be involved at this time but a different story could be happening behind the scenes. You will see what they want you to see.

Introducing Photo Man





It was possible to determine that the vehicle was rented on the 28/04/07 at Faro airport by Polish citizen Wojciech Krokowski who was staying in the Solimar apartments in Burgau

[Alfred R Jones]

They have to cover all possibilities this time so come on down dead tractorman, smelly binman, OC employees, etc. Photo man may be next. The McCanns don't need to be involved at this time but a different story could be happening behind the scenes. You will see what they want you to see.

Introducing Photo Man





It was possible to determine that the vehicle was rented on the 28/04/07 at Faro airport by Polish citizen Wojciech Krokowski who was staying in the Solimar apartments in Burgau

Yes it COULD be, but there is absolutely no evidence that there is, however there IS evidence in abundance that the McCanns and their friends are not suspects - you choose to believe the scenario for which there is no evidence, I choose to believe the scenario which is supported by the evidence.   That's the difference between us I guess.

[Benice]

Redwood's statements with regard to the McCann's and their friend's status have always been in response to a direct question from a journalist. What would you expect him to say even if there was suspicions with regard to them ?

IMO You are suggesting that Andy Redwood panicked and made something up on the spur of the moment.  That is preposterous imo. 

 As the lead investigator he is the one person who would know without doubt the status of the McCanns and the rest of the group which he and his team had been able to establish as a result of their investigations.   No way would he have made such a clear and unambiguous statement to the public unless SY were completely satisfied that the McCanns and their friends had emphatically been ruled out as suspects or even persons of interest.

That is not the only statement Andy Redwood has made which clearly indicates that SY have ruled them out.

Anyone who still thinks  SY are conducting some convoluted ginormous double bluff which involves massive and continual lying not only to the McCanns but to the UK General Public (and the rest of the world) are deluding themselves IMO.   Their credibility as a professional police force would be destroyed for ever.

This is not a soap opera.