Tavares Report wrongly claims EVRD Eddie alerted within the boot of the hire car

[Carana]

Why did the tavares report say eddie alerted in the boot?

Good question...

[Carana]

I wonder if Martin stuck Eddie in the car off camera just for the hell of it?

The whole point was that he didn't need to put Eddie in the car once he'd barked at the door. The car was then taken off for a forensic sweep, then Keela was put in to try to pinpoint any traces of blood.

If Eddie had reacted to the boot at any time, it would have been on the video.

[pathfinder73]

They buried the key in a bucket of sand on the far side of the underground car park. Eddie found it and alerted to confirm. Keela has to get in real close and sniff to alert to microscopic blood. IMO cadaver scent was coming from the car. Eddie's behaviour changed straight away due to him picking up cadaver scent which is what he was trained to find. Also their neighbour said they always kept the car boot open day and night so she reported it to the police!

[Carana]

The Eddie-in-the-boot myth continues to be repeated on the Internet, nearly 7 years later...

[AnneGuedes]

The Eddie-in-the-boot myth continues to be repeated on the Internet, nearly 7 years later...

I guess in spite of your efforts to destroy it (it's practically impossible to destroy a myth, every time you denounce it more people know about it).
What effects has that myth actually ?

[Carana]

It may be a problem for internet sleuths but it wasn't a problem for Amaral, or Eddie come to that.

From Grime's official report in the PJ files-

When passing a vehicle I now know to be hired and in the possession of the McCann family, the dog's behaviour changed substantially. This then produced an alert indication at the lower part of the drivers door where the dog was biting and barking. I recognise this behaviour as the dog indicating scent emitting from the inside of the vehicle through the seal around the door.
 
This vehicle was then subjected to a full physical examination by the PJ and no human remains were found. The CSI dog was then tasked to screen the vehicle. An alert indication was forthcoming from the rear driver's side of the boot area. Forensic samples were taken by the PJ and forwarded to a forensic laboratory in the U.K.



http://www.mccannfiles.com/id161.html#aug12

He was referring to the CSI dog, i.e. Keela.

Grime made a mistake - she reacted to the boot behind the front passenger's door (the right side of the vehicle). I presume he'd forgotten that the driver's seat is on the other side in Portugal.

[Carana]

I guess in spite of your efforts to destroy it (it's practically impossible to destroy a myth, every time you denounce it more people know about it).
What effects has that myth actually ?

That people continue to assume that Eddie reacted to a cadaver in the boot, when he didn't. If you couple that with the half-myth of 15/19 alleles (a half-myth because they were found in a soup of 37 which conveniently gets forgotten), plus Amaral's mistaken conviction that the only explanation for a partial result was that fluids from a defrosting corpse had been deposited there, then one could be forgiven for taking as fact that her dead body had indeed been transported in that boot.

ETA Another point concerns a so-called group of researchers who refer to TdeA's report as the official police report glossing over the fact that it is only an interim report and the fact it states that Eddie reacted to the boot when he didn't.

[AnneGuedes]

That people continue to assume that Eddie reacted to a cadaver in the boot, when he didn't. If you couple that with the half-myth of 15/19 alleles (a half-myth because they were found in a soup of 37 which conveniently gets forgotten), plus Amaral's mistaken conviction that the only explanation for a partial result was that fluids from a defrosting corpse had been deposited there, then one could be forgiven for taking as fact that her dead body had indeed been transported in that boot.

ETA Another point concerns a so-called group of researchers who refer to TdeA's report as the official police report glossing over the fact that it is only an interim report and the fact it states that Eddie reacted to the boot when he didn't.

Good luck in trying to dissipate this myth, Carana. The best is to do it indirectly, by supporting claims that turn the myth obsolete.
Though the report of Tavares de Almeida wasn't aimed to be definitive, the fact is that Paulo Rebelo did not much more than a review and an attempt to reconstitute what happened.

[Carana]

Good luck in trying to dissipate this myth, Carana. The best is to do it indirectly, by supporting claims that turn the myth obsolete.
Though the report of Tavares de Almeida wasn't aimed to be definitive, the fact is that Paulo Rebelo did not much more than a review and an attempt to reconstitute what happened.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I have already posted the extract of the video which shows that the dog that went into the boot was Keela; that what Grime is on AV record as having actually said is not what is transcribed in the PJ files; that TdeA copied that mistake for some reason.

Whatever Paulo Rebelo managed to do or not do within the timeframe left, it was João Carlos who wrote the final report and that mistake was not repeated.

Unfortunately, that document doesn't seem to be on the recommended reading list in some quarters. A certain "researcher" with Spielbergian aspirations has never corrected the clips in which these errors occur either, amongst many others. People have tried to ask her, but I have never seen an answer.

[AnneGuedes]

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I have already posted the extract of the video which shows that the dog that went into the boot was Keela; that what Grime is on AV record as having actually said is not what is transcribed in the PJ files; that TdeA copied that mistake for some reason.

Whatever Paulo Rebelo managed to do or not do within the timeframe left, it was João Carlos who wrote the final report and that mistake was not repeated.

Unfortunately, that document doesn't seem to be on the recommended reading list in some quarters. A certain "researcher" with Spielbergian aspirations has never corrected the clips in which these errors occur either, amongst many others. People have tried to ask her, but I have never seen an answer.

I wasn't meaning more than what I said. I could add that this myth doesn't seem crucial to me, as I can't imagine the body in the boot, even deeply frozen. No.
Who is the researcher and why the " " ?

[pegasus]

The sandbox test of the car key was IMO a sensible and precise test to do, it is surprising that the same test was not done on the toy.

[Silkywhiskers]

I wasn't meaning more than what I said. I could add that this myth doesn't seem crucial to me, as I can't imagine the body in the boot, even deeply frozen. No.
Who is the researcher and why the " " ?

And its precisely that lack of imagination the defence have used to their advantage, over and over.

People just can't imagine these two plotting and lying.

I can...maybe its my past career.  As a debt collector I have been lied to by experts.   Surgeons, chemists, public servants, very wealthy people who don't need to dodge paying their debts but do so anyway, just because it amuses them.

[AnneGuedes]

The sandbox test of the car key was IMO a sensible and precise test to do, it is surprising that the same test was not done on the toy.

You, who knows everything, Pegasus, can you tell in what kind of material are those car keys?

[AnneGuedes]

And its precisely that lack of imagination the defence have used to their advantage, over and over.

People just can't imagine these two plotting and lying.

I can...maybe its my past career.  As a debt collector I have been lied to by experts.   Surgeons, chemists, public servants, very wealthy people who don't need to dodge paying their debts but do so anyway, just because it amuses them.

I know what you mean. My brother in law who is a famous surgeon and lives in a small palace, can't resist the fun of cheating when leaving a car park or on highways. I think it makes him feel young and not conformist.
One thing is to be able to lie serenely, another is to move the body of your child from one place to another.

[pegasus]

You, who knows everything, Pegasus, can you tell in what kind of material are those car keys?

The majority material is plastic IMO (with a smaller amount of metal)