Tavares Report wrongly claims EVRD Eddie alerted within the boot of the hire car

[Mr Gray]

A driver who just before had been moving a cadaver or two without gloves ?

yes anne...according to grime...contamination is immediate...it wouldn't have to be just before...it could be a couple of weeks before

[AnneGuedes]

Notice that the most factual account we have on how the car got from PDL to Portimao comes from the book I quoted.
I suggest that another account from the same book, that she found the window already open, is equally factual.

Are you kidding ? Mr McCann was alone when he drove the car to Portimao. He parked the car near a café where, in order to avoid the medias, he was met by the police and driven back to PDL. He possibly was instructed to leave the key in the door. A reboque came and took the car to the garage. There was no need to touch the key with hands contaminated through touching a cadaver.
Wasn't Prof Harrison supervising the operation ?

[AnneGuedes]

Notice that the most factual account we have on how the car got from PDL to Portimao comes from the book I quoted.
I suggest that another account from the same book, that she found the window already open, is equally factual.

If A is true then B is true ? Funny logic !

[sadie]

Are you kidding ? Mr McCann was alone when he drove the car to Portimao. He parked the car near a café where, in order to avoid the medias, he was met by the police and driven back to PDL. He possibly was instructed to leave the key in the door. A reboque came and took the car to the garage. There was no need to touch the key with hands contaminated through touching a cadaver.
Wasn't Prof Harrison supervising the operation ?

If that is indeed factual ? 

So who drove the car on to the reboque (trailer) ? and off at the other end , then positioned it in the underground car park?

[pegasus]

If A is true then B is true ? Funny logic !

It is logic, based on experience that someone who tells me the truth about many things will do so next time also.
But at least you agree that A is true? That it is a factual account of how the car was taken to Portimao?

[pegasus]

WInching a car onto a trailer without touching the keycard?
You won't find me standing next to the trailer when you do that  8-)(--)
Unless its a pre-steeringlock vintage car.
A truck which lifts the car off the ground would work ok though

[AnneGuedes]

It is logic, based on experience that someone who tells me the truth about many things will do so next time also.
But at least you agree that A is true? That it is a factual account of how the car was taken to Portimao?

!
You should read Stern about the psychology of the witness statement.
The car wasn't taken to Portimao, but driven to Portimao by Mr McCann.

[AnneGuedes]

WInching a car onto a trailer without touching the keycard?
You won't find me standing next to the trailer when you do that  8-)(--)

How do you think cars are withdrawn from prohibited park spaces ?

[pegasus]

The question of how the car was "taken" to Portimao is answered by consulting the accurate source which states it was "driven" there. Without that source you would be guessing how it was "taken" there. 

[pegasus]

How do you think cars are withdrawn from prohibited park spaces ?

The method illustrated on that sign for illegally parked cars would require first breaking into the car.
Anyway IMO the car in this case is likely to have been driven by a police officer from cafe to garage and it seems reasonable to assume with the correct type of gloves (which we know were used in the garage).

[AnneGuedes]

The question of how the car was "taken" to Portimao is answered by consulting the accurate source which states it was "driven" there. Without that source you would be guessing how it was "taken" there.

No, I wouldn't, Mr McCann's blog says clearly that he went to Portimao on that day.

[AnneGuedes]

The method illustrated on that sign for illegally parked cars would require first breaking into the car.

Not at all. It's a simple and quick way, valid for a short distance.

[AnneGuedes]

Anyway IMO the car in this case is likely to have been driven by a police officer from cafe to garage and it seems reasonable to assume with the correct type of gloves (which we know were used in the garage).

Apart from YO, has the operation supervisor recommended the previous pollution of the cars by a driver, gloves or not ?

[pegasus]

Not at all. It's a simple and quick way, valid for a short distance.

The method as illustrated in your photo would require breaking into the illegally parked car, unless you put up another sign "to all people who park illegally please leave car in neutral and handbrake off".

Back to the car in Portimao, it is documented that various other people had rented the car before May 26th. The fact that other people had driven it (whether previous renters or police) does not invalidate the EVRD indication IMO.
   

[pegasus]

Apart from YO, has the operation supervisor recommended the previous pollution of the cars by a driver, gloves or not ?

Good point. The way to move a car without touching the interior is to use a truck which lifts the car up into the air and down onto the truck. (Towing or winching both require entering the car and touching steering wheel / gearshift / handbrake). It would be interesting to see which methods are used by police forces in various countries.