Tavares Report wrongly claims EVRD Eddie alerted within the boot of the hire car

[slartibartfast]

The method as illustrated in your photo would require breaking into the illegally parked car, unless you put up another sign "to all people who park illegally please leave car in neutral and handbrake off".

Back to the car in Portimao, it is documented that various other people had rented the car before May 26th. The fact that other people had driven it (whether previous renters or police) does not invalidate the EVRD indication IMO.
 

No, I have actually stood and watched the "police" remove an illegal parked car in Tenerife. They don't really worry about the car and they would likely be very careful not to contaminate a car to be forensically examined.

[sadie]

No, I have actually stood and watched the "police" remove an illegal parked car in Tenerife. They don't really worry about the car and they would likely be very careful not to contaminate a car to be forensically examined.

Well they haven't been exactly careful in  some other instances to do with this case have they ?  Comments have been made about the missing gloves / white suits.   Martin Grime might have been more fussy tho?  If he was in charge at that stage ?

[AnneGuedes]

Good point. The way to move a car without touching the interior is to use a truck which lifts the car up into the air and down onto the truck. (Towing or winching both require entering the car and touching steering wheel / gearshift / handbrake). It would be interesting to see which methods are used by police forces in various countries.

How can locked cars be removed according to you ? Do you think that the Portuguese barbarians jemmy the door of the car in order to remove it or break the window to get inside ?
When a car is parked in such a way that a tram, a streetcar, can't pass, the driver waits for the police. In France, they don't : people would get out of the tram and push the car ! In Portugal they don't, because of civil responsibility.

[sadie]

How do you think cars are withdrawn from prohibited park spaces ?

So did they manoeuvre it into place using that method?

Think again

[John]

It was far too late then anyway.  The car had been used by others so any forensics would have been laughed out of court.  If Dr Amaral and the PJ really thought the car had been used as a transport for a body they should have pounced on it immediately.  Even after the McCanns fled Portugal for fear of being arrested, the PJ failed to act.  What were they thinking?

And as for driving the suspect vehicles to the underground car park to be tested and even damaging  Murats van...unbelievable incompetence!  Keystone cops for sure.

[Mr Gray]

It was far too late then anyway.  The car had been used by others so any forensics would have been laughed out of court.  If Dr Amaral and the PJ really thought the car had been used as a transport for a body they should have pounced on it immediately.  Even after the McCanns fled Portugal for fear of being arrested, the PJ failed to act.  What were they thinking?

And as for driving the suspect vehicles to the underground car park to be tested and even damaging  Murats van...unbelievable incompetence!  Keystone cops for sure.

many of us have thought this for years.

[Carana]

Good point. The way to move a car without touching the interior is to use a truck which lifts the car up into the air and down onto the truck. (Towing or winching both require entering the car and touching steering wheel / gearshift / handbrake). It would be interesting to see which methods are used by police forces in various countries.

The car was taken down to a different level for the forensic exam. Would a regular car park be high enough for a truck to lift the car up and then take it down the ramp?

[John]

The car was taken down to a different level for the forensic exam. Would a regular car park be high enough for a truck to lift the car up and then take it down the ramp?

It wouldn't but they could have brought the cars in on a low loader car trailer.  Would it matter to be honest, the vehicles were seriously contaminated by that time in any event.

[Carana]

One of the oddest things is that there was a whole DNA profile in the boot of the car. Either FSS missed it or the car bits got contaminated after the FSS had concluded their tests and were retested by the INML.

Whoever it belonged to, it wasn't Madeleine (as it was from a male), and it wasn't Gerry.

[Luz]

Why did the tavares report say eddie alerted in the boot?

Guess what?

Tavares was there, at the site, when the dogs made the signaling of the cars and clothes.

[Luz]

I find it amazing that people that are on their asses thousands of kilometres away decide that they are more knowledgeable than those that actually were on the site.

This case is fortunately documented, something the UK has never done, and it gives place to every attempt to discredit the work that was conducted.

Mistakes were done, nobody discusses that, but not as many as the McCann defenders wish to make out.

[Benice]

I find it amazing that people that are on their asses thousands of kilometres away decide that they are more knowledgeable than those that actually were on the site.

This case is fortunately documented, something the UK has never done, and it gives place to every attempt to discredit the work that was conducted.

Mistakes were done, nobody discusses that, but not as many as the McCann defenders wish to make out.

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ANTONIO MARINHO PINTO: (translated) I’m convinced the McCann case will feature in Portuguese judicial history as a bad example.     What a criminal investigation should not be.
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[Mr Gray]

I find it amazing that people that are on their asses thousands of kilometres away decide that they are more knowledgeable than those that actually were on the site.

This case is fortunately documented, something the UK has never done, and it gives place to every attempt to discredit the work that was conducted.

Mistakes were done, nobody discusses that, but not as many as the McCann defenders wish to make out.

We have read the reports by Grime, that's all we need to know that the dogs do not incriminate the McCanns

[ferryman]

We have read the reports by Grime, that's all we need to know that the dogs do not incriminate the McCanns

He [Eddie] does not identify the reasons for the presence of the odour nor does he identify suspects. Forensic confirmation and specialized investigation methods will determine the reasons and the suspicions. In order to undoubtedly affirm there must be a confirmation of the alert signals made by the dog.

Martin Grime

[Carana]

Guess what?

Tavares was there, at the site, when the dogs made the signaling of the cars and clothes.

That makes it even more difficult to understand why he didn't notice which dog went in the boot.