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Offline pegasus

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #105 on: March 03, 2014, 02:14:34 AM »
I can't remember having to air my car. Tied up plastic bags don't let smell escape.
I read the police was looking for a baby, they brought cadaver dogs on a property and those dogs alerted in some part of the house, but the police found nothing there. They took the dogs in the garden and the dogs didn't react anywhere. There was a little cabin for tools, full up to the roof with all sorts of rubbish. A police officer saw a bag, opened it and... horrible. But the (many) bags were very well tied up, the dogs were cheated.
I have not found that case.
But in most cases the perp would be acting in desperate "spur of moment " and have not the time for researching such precautions nor a ready stock of bags

Offline VIXTE

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #106 on: March 03, 2014, 02:16:15 AM »
IMO, without taking sides, (and this applies even to those who take the viewpoint that Eddie's signal of the driver door-seal and of the key as 100% directly relevant), it is important to see that additionally there are also 4 other logical causes for airing the car (household rubbish, green waste, leaky supermarket packaging, drying out after cleaning).

or spilt milk, it is the worse thing ever.. with babies on board it is easy to spill milk..

Offline pegasus

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #107 on: March 03, 2014, 02:35:32 AM »
or spilt milk, it is the worse thing ever.. with babies on board it is easy to spill milk..
I've had a split plastic milk container leaking after a day or two it makes a sour smell.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #108 on: March 03, 2014, 03:16:07 AM »
All these people with smelly cars....unless you've also had a cadaver alert on your car, your experiences re spilt milk and shrubbery are totally irrelevant.


Offline Benice

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #109 on: March 03, 2014, 08:53:16 AM »
All these people with smelly cars....unless you've also had a cadaver alert on your car, your experiences re spilt milk and shrubbery are totally irrelevant.

I think you have missed the point.  The point being that there are various innocent reasons why a car would need airing -  unless of course you believe a raised car boot can only ever mean one thing - i.e. that a decaying dead body must have been in there.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Carana

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #110 on: March 03, 2014, 09:17:54 AM »
I think you have missed the point.  The point being that there are various innocent reasons why a car would need airing -  unless of course you believe a raised car boot can only ever mean one thing - i.e. that a decaying dead body must have been in there.

Perhaps carbootlady did see the boot open a few times, and the story got exaggerated. It wouldn't necessarily be just to air the car, people would be loading and unloading luggage, shopping, belongings, etc., if family members were travelling to and forth or had gone out for the day...

Without a statement, however, there's no way of knowing the timeframe during which she apparently noticed this, beyond the fact that it was parked in the vicinity of the villa.

Offline Benice

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #111 on: March 03, 2014, 09:36:41 AM »
Perhaps carbootlady did see the boot open a few times, and the story got exaggerated. It wouldn't necessarily be just to air the car, people would be loading and unloading luggage, shopping, belongings, etc., if family members were travelling to and forth or had gone out for the day...

Without a statement, however, there's no way of knowing the timeframe during which she apparently noticed this, beyond the fact that it was parked in the vicinity of the villa.

I agree Carana - all valid points imo.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Angelo222

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #112 on: March 03, 2014, 10:30:32 AM »
I agree Carana - all valid points imo.

In Portugal in July and August it tends to be very hot and locals tend to put their cars under the shade.  From what I have seen of the parking arrangements there was no covered parking at the villa so in order to keep the car cool they would have left the tailgate raised imo.

There was also the admission by Gerry's brother-in-law that they had seepage from some shopping and that the tailgate was left open to air the car.  A reasonable explanation if I might say so.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 10:33:25 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Lyall

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Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #113 on: March 03, 2014, 10:50:41 AM »
Perhaps carbootlady did see the boot open a few times, and the story got exaggerated. It wouldn't necessarily be just to air the car, people would be loading and unloading luggage, shopping, belongings, etc., if family members were travelling to and forth or had gone out for the day...

Without a statement, however, there's no way of knowing the timeframe during which she apparently noticed this, beyond the fact that it was parked in the vicinity of the villa.

Stories being exaggerated probably applies to most of what said in this case, Carana. Not just one witness - most of them.


AnneGuedes

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Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #114 on: March 03, 2014, 11:41:42 AM »
In Portugal in July and August it tends to be very hot and locals tend to put their cars under the shade.  From what I have seen of the parking arrangements there was no covered parking at the villa so in order to keep the car cool they would have left the tailgate raised imo.

There was also the admission by Gerry's brother-in-law that they had seepage from some shopping and that the tailgate was left open to air the car.  A reasonable explanation if I might say so.
Yes.
It's no practice in Portugal to leave the boot open to cool the car. Does it ?

AnneGuedes

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Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #115 on: March 03, 2014, 12:00:48 PM »
Stories being exaggerated probably applies to most of what said in this case, Carana. Not just one witness - most of them.
This witness' observation concerning days before the car was examined by the dogs would be at the most a mere indication. The air of the carboot wasn't captured and even when it is (like in the Anthony case) it's not (yet) a proof.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #116 on: March 03, 2014, 12:04:48 PM »
Of course it's normal behaviour for the neighbour to report an open car boot to the police - I don't think so!
« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 12:07:47 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Luz

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #117 on: March 03, 2014, 12:05:42 PM »
I think you have missed the point.  The point being that there are various innocent reasons why a car would need airing -  unless of course you believe a raised car boot can only ever mean one thing - i.e. that a decaying dead body must have been in there.

Only cadaver stench requires a week's long airing....Spilling milk?!!! Indeed.

Even so the dog was able to signal that cadaver odour, and you and we all know these dogs don't signal dirty nappies, spilled milk or spilled beef defrosting,....only dirty people would do that, anyway.

Offline Carana

Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #118 on: March 03, 2014, 06:26:18 PM »
Of course it's normal behaviour for the neighbour to report an open car boot to the police - I don't think so!

Dunno. I suppose it might be if you'd read the tabloid horror stories of "tufts of hair" and "body fluids" in the non-existent tyre well of a car that you assume to be your neighbours'. However, if she'd been that worried about it, why did she not make a statement to the PJ? Unless she did and it got lost. It would hardly qualify for the restricted list.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The mysterious lady who reported the car boot being open every day.
« Reply #119 on: March 03, 2014, 06:34:16 PM »
the tabloid horror stories of "tufts of hair" and "body fluids"
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Horror stories ? How would you qualify stories of dismembered body ?