Author Topic: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?  (Read 29036 times)

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Redblossom

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Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2014, 09:05:07 PM »
Ah so the translators wrote down one thing but read out another, to trick Gerry Mccann into signing  something he didnt say, ie that entered the flat using his key,  evil conspiratorial  people I agree

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2014, 09:10:38 PM »
Ah so the translators wrote down one thing but read out another, to trick Gerry Mccann into signing  something he didnt say, ie that entered the flat using his key,  evil conspiratorial  people I agree

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No one tricked anyone and no one lied...you are unwilling to accept reality and that is that people make mistakes

Offline Carana

Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2014, 09:15:59 PM »
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And the sceptics who believe that signed statements are genuine are part of the conspiracy...
ROFL !

There are so many conspiracy theories that I'm not sure which one you are referring to.

All I'm trying to say is that I find it totally plausible that there could have been confusion in Gerry's initial interview. I can't think of any plausible reason why he would have said that he'd gone to the front door (i.e. the long way), particularly when he needed a pee and said in the same statement that Matt had gone in and out via the unlocked veranda glass sliding door. This same phrasing was used in the noted response as to how Kate had got in and out, yet, Kate, the second witness that day, clearly stated which entrance she had used.

Redblossom

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Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2014, 09:22:13 PM »
No one tricked anyone and no one lied...you are unwilling to accept reality and that is that people make mistakes

So why did you say Gerry only had the translators word for it before he signed, what WERE you insinuating! You need to flesh out your arguments and accusations so people can actually understand what you actually MEAN.
Off you go and do so now, I might read for humour purposes obviously but wont be responding on this waste of time thread any more.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2014, 09:27:24 PM »
So why did you say Gerry only had the translators word for it before he signed, what WERE you insinuating! You need to flesh out your arguments and accusations so people can actually understand what you actually MEAN.
Off you go and do so now, I might read for humour purposes obviously but wont be responding on this waste of time thread any more.

Its quite simple...Gerry only had the translators word for what was written down...he signed because he was not concerned...at that point he was not arguido.....I'm  fairly sure non of those statements could be used against Gerry in court because he had not been   "cautioned"

AnneGuedes

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Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #50 on: February 28, 2014, 09:31:57 PM »
There are 3 external doors (openings you can walk through).
- in the hall, the lounge, and the south bedroom.

There are 4 external windows (openings you can not walk through).
- in the north bedroom, the kitchen, and two in the living area
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Now a door is an opening you can walk through ! I hope your door isn't of that type, Pegasus!

AnneGuedes

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Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #51 on: February 28, 2014, 09:36:09 PM »
There are so many conspiracy theories that I'm not sure which one you are referring to.

All I'm trying to say is that I find it totally plausible that there could have been confusion in Gerry's initial interview. I can't think of any plausible reason why he would have said that he'd gone to the front door (i.e. the long way), particularly when he needed a pee and said in the same statement that Matt had gone in and out via the unlocked veranda glass sliding door. This same phrasing was used in the noted response as to how Kate had got in and out, yet, Kate, the second witness that day, clearly stated which entrance she had used.
This is typical of conspiracy adepts. Would Mrs McCann confess she killed Madeleine unintentionally, you'll certain say that she was not in her right mind when she confessed.
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AnneGuedes

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Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #52 on: February 28, 2014, 09:37:19 PM »
wont be responding on this waste of time thread any more.
I hope so.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #53 on: February 28, 2014, 10:26:53 PM »
What a load of crap.

There was no "lost in translation" in this case!!!!!

Gerry changed his story! End of!

Oh and everyone might ask themselves why they wanted us to believe Tanner also went the long way for her "check" - who would voluntarily "nip out before the starters" and take the long way????

No one!

But it HAD to be that way to account for Tannerman!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #54 on: February 28, 2014, 10:39:34 PM »
the bizarre theories posted on here have a serious flaw...Gerry carried out the perfect crime...left no forensic evidence...fooled SY...but didn't manage to get his story straight in his statments...translation errors...100%

Offline pegasus

Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2014, 10:45:30 PM »
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Now a door is an opening you can walk through ! I hope your door isn't of that type, Pegasus!
A door even if it is 90% glazed is still a door.


AnneGuedes

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Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2014, 12:57:36 AM »
A door even if it is 90% glazed is still a door.
Since you walk through glass, this is a door ! I wonder what Alice would have thought of that looking one.

Offline pegasus

Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2014, 01:52:24 AM »
The general idea applied with great success by most people experienced in these matters is to open the door before walking through the resulting opening ;)



« Last Edit: March 01, 2014, 01:54:42 AM by pegasus »

Offline peter claridge

Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2014, 10:06:46 AM »
Gerry's second statement -Despite what he said in his previous statements, he states now and with certainty, that he left with KATE through the back door which he consequently closed but did not lock, given that that is only possible from the inside. Concerning the front door, although he is certain that it was closed, it is unlikely that it was locked, because they left through the back door.

Not a translation error then!

Offline peter claridge

Re: The confusion over the doors didn't help the investigation?
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2014, 10:20:57 AM »
Another informative little titbit concerning the patio doors... when the preferred entry for the abductor was via the bedroom window, Gerry stated this -He mentions that they were seated at the table, in a position that allowed the deponent to see almost the entire back door of his apartment, through which they left and entered and which gave access to the living room.

On having to review their preferred means of entry for the abductor to the patio doors Kate states this -She makes a sketch of the table and says that both she and Gerry were not facing the apartments. Sketch attached.