Would an amnesty in the Madeleine case bring forth a conclusion?

[Sherlock Holmes]

I can just about bring myself to accept amnesties in a political context. e.g EOKA and Mau Mau.
In a criminal context I think amnesty defeats the principles of law. Letting someone off a minor crime to nail someone else for a major crime or gain useful intelligence is a bit iffy in my book. OK it probably happens but should be discouraged as it legitimises some law breaking. The problem then is that an individual or organisation is making decisions that rightfully in our society should be made by the Judiciary.

It must happen all the time in police work. Where do we imagine police get their information from?

[AnneGuedes]

I believe amnesty per se is more or less acceptable in a political context but not in a criminal one.

I was thinking of South Africa in fact.

[Sherlock Holmes]

I've got a feeling there would be no need for this..

It is hard to explain this feeling but for example to form a reason for prosecution SY and PJ would need to full fill providing evidence A, B and C.

What we have in published files is lots of As.. possibly a part of a B somewhere, if looked from an different angle but no Cs..

I believe they reached the point B at the moment.. and they are pushing towards the C..

Not sure I understand this, VIXTE...

If someone came forward in the context of an amnesty, that would be in effect a confession, and a lot of the detective work would be taken out of it.

[AnneGuedes]

But then you also stated that one either believes in the rule of law or not...

Estuarine stated this, I agreed.

[VIXTE]

Not sure I understand this, VIXTE...

If someone came forward in the context of an amnesty, that would be in effect a confession, and a lot of the detective work would be taken out of it.

I mean, I've got a feeling 'the new investigation has already passed the level where the confession is badly needed'  but that is just my own feeling..

[Estuarine]

It must happen all the time in police work. Where do we imagine police get their information from?

By being good at their jobs or is that too simplistic. The original question was about an amnesty. An amnesty is wholesale.
But if you like the idea of the law and justice being a tradable commodity fine. When it goes tits up for you, you will probably scream foul loud and long.
I'm out of here.

[Sherlock Holmes]

By being good at their jobs or is that too simplistic. The original question was about an amnesty. An amnesty is wholesale.
But if you like the idea of the law and justice being a tradable commodity fine. When it goes tits up for you, you will probably scream foul loud and long.
I'm out of here.

I am sure most police officers are good at their jobs and investigate matters profesionally. However some of their professionally-gathered intelligence comes from the criminal world itself - that's a no-brainer.

[AnneGuedes]

I am sure most police officers are good at their jobs and investigate matters profesionally. However some of their professionally-gathered intelligence comes from the criminal world itself - that's a no-brainer.

Somehow in drug, arms traffic and Mafia matters, but not in ordinary criminal cases.

[Estuarine]

I am sure most police officers are good at their jobs and investigate matters profesionally. However some of their professionally-gathered intelligence comes from the criminal world itself - that's a no-brainer.

Stating the bleedin' obvious and ducking the issue does you no credit.
How much info is gathered by offering amnesties. ie offering immunity to everyone involved [for that is what an amnesty is] in exchange for information on which you will be unable to act because you have granted an amnesty.
Now duck and dive if you wish. Why are you on a "Justice" site if you only believe in it selectively ?

[pegasus]

If a would-be thief opened the window from outside then immediately fled, then an amnesty directed at that would-be thief might be good (obviouisly on strict conditions he never entered apartment and never harmed child).
Waste of time posting this really, seems no-one can see the logic  >@@(*&) 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Stating the bleedin' obvious and ducking the issue does you no credit.
How much info is gathered by offering amnesties. ie offering immunity to everyone involved [for that is what an amnesty is] in exchange for information on which you will be unable to act because you have granted an amnesty.
Now duck and dive if you wish. Why are you on a "Justice" site if you only believe in it selectively ?

Oh, there is nothing there to say I don't believe in it. Just being realistic about how information is gathered. Information could be gathered in all sorts of ways in order to see justice served in the end.

As to exactly how much information is gathered through official amnesties, I don't know.

[AnneGuedes]

If a would-be thief opened the window from outside then immediately fled, then an amnesty directed at that would-be thief might be good (obviouisly on strict conditions he never entered apartment and never harmed child).
Waste of time posting this really, seems no-one can see the logic  >@@(*&)

I can see pretty well the reason, if not the logic, of your thief opening shutters and window from the outside and running away right after, leaving all open.

[Sherlock Holmes]

If a would-be thief opened the window from outside then immediately fled, then an amnesty directed at that would-be thief might be good (obviouisly on strict conditions he never entered apartment and never harmed child).
Waste of time posting this really, seems no-one can see the logic  >@@(*&)

If the burglar managed to tell us something such as whether Madeleine was there at a certain time or not, that surely could be of great benefit.

[pathfinder73]

If a would-be thief opened the window from outside then immediately fled, then an amnesty directed at that would-be thief might be good (obviouisly on strict conditions he never entered apartment and never harmed child).
Waste of time posting this really, seems no-one can see the logic  >@@(*&) 

Why did the burglar flee if he had gone to the trouble of opening noisy shutters and window?

[AnneGuedes]

Why did the burglar flee if he had gone to the trouble of opening noisy shutters and window?

He was just there in order to open the shutters and window.