Author Topic: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?  (Read 133419 times)

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Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #240 on: March 17, 2014, 01:52:41 AM »
either that or, one group is not telling the truth.
IMO it would be a foolish and easily disproveable lie, so IMO blue jeans is truthful.


Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #242 on: March 17, 2014, 03:55:35 PM »
Exactly.
Yes trouser colour is something stated quite definitely by two of the irish group and IMO effectively out the id proposed by some.

Offline Anna

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #243 on: March 17, 2014, 04:11:31 PM »
Yes trouser colour is something stated quite definitely by two of the irish group and IMO effectively out the id proposed by some.

I thought the street lighting may have caused a colour distortion, but since they saw the pink pyjamas, their observations must be correct.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Luz

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #244 on: March 17, 2014, 04:19:28 PM »
IMO it would be a foolish and easily disproveable lie, so IMO blue jeans is truthful.


sure, and I have green hair, although I'm not irish & it's not St. Patrick's.

Offline jassi

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #245 on: March 17, 2014, 04:28:41 PM »
I thought the street lighting may have caused a colour distortion, but since they saw the pink pyjamas, their observations must be correct.

Ah, you mean they possibly  weren't pink at all?
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Offline Anna

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #246 on: March 17, 2014, 04:39:50 PM »
Ah, you mean they possibly  weren't pink at all?

That is a possibility, but the child would be higher than his Jeans and nearer the light and there were several observers, so anyone's guess really.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #247 on: March 17, 2014, 05:07:56 PM »
The man seen by the irish group, whether concealor or an irrelevant innocentman, was not someone wearing blue jeans.

Offline Anna

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #248 on: March 17, 2014, 05:13:46 PM »
The man seen by the irish group, whether concealor or an irrelevant innocentman, was not someone wearing blue jeans.

That's right. He was reported to be wearing cream or similar Jeans or trousers.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #249 on: March 17, 2014, 09:46:33 PM »

sure, and I have green hair, although I'm not irish & it's not St. Patrick's.

It is indeed St. Patrick's Day today, Luz! I just went to a big parade!

Or have I missed something in the discussion...?!

Offline sadie

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #250 on: March 17, 2014, 10:26:12 PM »
I thought the street lighting may have caused a colour distortion, but since they saw the pink pyjamas, their observations must be correct.
I think I am right in saying that they wouldn't see colour by sodium lighting Anna, but certain vehicle types have headlamps that show trueish colour.  Also lights from windows would.  They may have had torches, of course.

Was it sodium lighting in Rua D'Escola and in Rua 25 Abril ?  Anyone know?

There was a damned great searchlight sort of thing high in the air near where Aofie and (was it?) Martin saw Smithman at the junction of Rua D'Escola.with Rua 25 Abril.  Wonder if that was sodium?

Offline Anna

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #251 on: March 17, 2014, 10:35:22 PM »
I think I am right in saying that they wouldn't see colour by sodium lighting Anna, but certain vehicle types have headlamps that show trueish colour.  Also lights from windows would.  They may have had torches, of course.

Was it sodium lighting in Rua D'Escola and in Rua 25 Abril ?  Anyone know?

There was a damned great searchlight sort of thing high in the air near where Aofie and (was it?) Martin saw Smithman at the junction of Rua D'Escola.with Rua 25 Abril.  Wonder if that was sodium?

Well I am sure that somewhere in here says that the light outside the Apt distorted colour.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline sadie

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #252 on: March 17, 2014, 10:46:56 PM »
Well I am sure that somewhere in here says that the light outside the Apt distorted colour.
Yep, you are right Anna.  They were and still are, I think, sodium lights. 

IIRC sodium lights are monochromatic.  For Jane or the Smiths to have seen colour there had to be a secondary lighting source, such as from a window, or balcony or from the headlights of passing vehicles.  IIRC four wheel drive vehicles have multi chromatic headlights and some vans.  Most cars do not.

Offline John

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #253 on: March 18, 2014, 12:11:27 AM »
I think I am right in saying that they wouldn't see colour by sodium lighting Anna, but certain vehicle types have headlamps that show trueish colour.  Also lights from windows would.  They may have had torches, of course.

Was it sodium lighting in Rua D'Escola and in Rua 25 Abril ?  Anyone know?

There was a damned great searchlight sort of thing high in the air near where Aofie and (was it?) Martin saw Smithman at the junction of Rua D'Escola.with Rua 25 Abril.  Wonder if that was sodium?

An actual picture taken at night showing the street Smithman walked down.  The lighting seems very poor but sodium all the same and improves towards the junction itself. 


 
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Offline sadie

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #254 on: March 18, 2014, 12:22:38 AM »
An actual picture taken at night showing the street Smithman walked down.  The lighting seems very poor but sodium all the same and improves towards the junction itself. 


 

Thankyou john.  That illustrates it very well.  We can all see red and blue (I think) in that image, which shows that some of the lighting was NOT sodium at the junction

Was it car headlights or was it the massive overhead lamp at the crossing, which showed the colour?.  I rather think it was the later.  Maybe there was some other light source that we cant see?