Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?

[pathfinder73]

Please see my edited post that show the gaps.

[pegasus]

The only good tree/largebush cover to eliminate visibility from higher floors of WG4, P.Brancas, LuzTur, etc, is the little northmost bit (which seems to have maybe been omitted from a partial levelling of rest of site not long before 2007). Of course aerial photography (visible/near-IR/UV) whether by the Civil Defence helicopter with MH in 2007, or the air force helicopter in 2014, cannot see the ground shielded by tree/bush cover. BTW I posted photo of biggest undergap a few days ago, no-one noticed.

[pathfinder73]

The only good tree/largebush cover to eliminate visibility from higher floors of WG4, P.Brancas, LuzTur, etc, is the little northmost bit (which seems to have maybe been omitted from a partial levelling of rest of site not long before 2007). Of course aerial photography (visible/near-IR/UV) whether by the Civil Defence helicopter with MH in 2007, or the air force helicopter in 2014, cannot see the ground shielded by tree/bush cover. BTW I posted photo of biggest undergap a few days ago, no-one noticed.

Remember it was dark at just after 9. I didn't know where the gaps were situated on the perimeter fence until I saw this GE screenshot again. Interesting it's in the area I suspected.

[jassi]

Madeleine was chloroformed, as were the twins. The perps had the key to the front door (the keys were available in the laundry store room).
Smithman was fabricated to divert attention from the third arguido (Tannerman was an unfortunate blip in the plan). The CCTV at Estrela da Luz was wiped not because it showed Smithman, but because it didn't show Smithman.
I'm asking about the landing/corridors on levels 2 & 3 as I can't tell from the photos - are they linked to the next block along so the cleaning staff can access more easily?

Whom do you think was responsible for this fabrication?
Are you saying Smithman never existed, or that it was a deliberate diversion?

[Alfred R Jones]

If a bag was used it wasn't left with the hidden body. Carrying a child is easier and less suspicious than lugging a big heavy bag through the streets towards the beach at night. The question is he could have dumped the body in a bin around the wasteland and wouldn't need to go past the Smiths but it looks like he had another destination >@@(*&) Now you know why they're checking around the church.

I beg to differ.  On a night when a child has gone missing I would say that carrying her body uncovered through town looks a lot more conspicuous than carrying a bag or suitcase through what is, after all, a holiday resort. 

[stephen25000]

I beg to differ.  On a night when a child has gone missing I would say that carrying her body uncovered through town looks a lot more conspicuous than carrying a bag or suitcase through what is, after all, a holiday resort.

So someone who was 'abducting' a child would broadcast it by carrying the child in his arms whilst people were around ?

Very logical.

[jassi]

I beg to differ.  On a night when a child has gone missing I would say that carrying her body uncovered through town looks a lot more conspicuous than carrying a bag or suitcase through what is, after all, a holiday resort.

It would if at the time people were already alerted that a child was missing. It the case of Smithman, the Smiths were blissfully unaware of the night's drama.

[Alfred R Jones]

So someone who was 'abducting' a child would broadcast it by carrying the child in his arms whilst people were around ?

Very logical.

How do you work that out from what I wrote?  Let's see your logical though processes at work here then....

[Alfred R Jones]

It would if at the time people were already alerted that a child was missing. It the case of Smithman, the Smiths were blissfully unaware of the night's drama.

We would probably never have heard of the Smiths at all if they had passed a man carrying a bag.

[jassi]

We would probably never have heard of the Smiths at all if they had passed a man carrying a bag.

I think there are some who wish they had never heard of the Smith sighting - pesky tourists.

[stephen25000]

How do you work that out from what I wrote?  Let's see your logical though processes at work here then....

I was making a point about the notion that an 'abductor' would walk around the area and be visible to other people would be rather a stupid thing to do..

Didn't you comprehend that ?

[Alfred R Jones]

I was making a point about the notion that an 'abductor' would walk around the area and be visible to other people would be rather a stupid thing to do..

Didn't you comprehend that ?

Yes I comprehended that you were sneering at the notion of Smithman being an abductor on the basis that he wouldn't wish to be seen carrying away the child, whilst apparently blithely accepting as perfectly logical that the same man would be quite prepared to be seen carrying her corpse around instead.  Very logical, I'm sure.

[Alfred R Jones]

So someone who was 'abducting' a child would broadcast it by carrying the child in his arms whilst people were around ?

Very logical.

Here is your post Stephen in which you clearly assume that I am of the opinion that Smithman is the abductor - I would describe it as sneering.  If you had read back a few pages on this thread however you would have read my post in which I said I wouldn't be at all surprised if Smithman turns out to be as unconnected to this case as Tannerman.  So, perhaps you would like to apologise, or at the very least have a good old sneer at the notion that Smithman was carrying around a corpse that night, just to even things up a bit?

[stephen25000]

Here is your post Stephen in which you clearly assume that I am of the opinion that Smithman is the abductor - I would describe it as sneering.  If you had read back a few pages on this thread however you would have read my post in which I said I wouldn't be at all surprised if Smithman turns out to be as unconnected to this case as Tannerman.  So, perhaps you would like to apologise, or at the very least have a good old sneer at the notion that Smithman was carrying around a corpse that night, just to even things up a bit?

Did I refer to you directly in the post ?

Or was I making a general statement ?

Do keep up.

[Benice]

How would anyone know for sure that Smithman had not just got out of a car or come out of a nearby house - where he may have been dropped off by an accomplice, when he was spotted by the Smiths?

He could have been sitting in a car or house making sure Madeleine was sedated waiting for news that a pre-arranged boat was now in place before setting off to the beach and disappearing across the sea in it with Madeleine.