Author Topic: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?  (Read 133440 times)

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Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #285 on: March 27, 2014, 02:34:30 AM »
People say "if smithman was an innocent father carrying his sleeping child home why hasn't he come forward?"
Well show me a single official police appeal to find him which names the street location?
Scotland Yard's appeal does not bother to name the street location. (Correct me if I'm wrong?)

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #286 on: March 27, 2014, 02:42:22 AM »
I think they know who the man is 8(0(*
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #287 on: March 27, 2014, 02:57:42 AM »
I think they know who the man is 8(0(*
IMO they dont know for certain who the man is.
It would be a serious oversight to publish an appeal which fails to mention the street location.
Maybe someone can check SY website and hopefully correct me.

Offline jassi

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #288 on: March 27, 2014, 08:27:05 AM »
IMO they dont know for certain who the man is.
It would be a serious oversight to publish an appeal which fails to mention the street location.
Maybe someone can check SY website and hopefully correct me.

Perhaps they are not too keen to identify him - they do have a mass of other people of interest to occupy them.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #289 on: March 27, 2014, 01:48:13 PM »
Perhaps they are not too keen to identify him - they do have a mass of other people of interest to occupy them.
SY's current public appeal is in effect something like a vague
"If you were walking carrying a child in PDL that night about 10pm please come forward"
Here is what it should say (with the all important street location and direction added)
"If you were walking carrying a child along Rua Escola southwards onto the junction with Rua 21 Abril at about 10pm that night please come forward"
(Also the appeal should show a photo of the junction because, of the many potential unfound witnesses who walked/drove along Rua Escola or Rua 21 Abril that night, those that were tourists may not know the road names).
But show me that public appeal anywhere? Correct me if I'm wrong?
« Last Edit: March 27, 2014, 01:49:48 PM by pegasus »

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #290 on: March 27, 2014, 03:21:04 PM »
I agree that they should release more information about his walking route and where he may have be seen e.g. on Rua 21 Abril or in close proximity to the church IMO. And anybody out and near to that area at around 10pm should come forward.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #291 on: March 27, 2014, 03:36:37 PM »
I agree that they should release more information about his walking route and where he may have be seen e.g. on Rua 21 Abril or in close proximity to the church IMO. And anybody out and near to that area at around 10pm should come forward.

I don't believe they have any intention of identifying Smithman as they don't want to go where he might lead.
They would rather devote their efforts towards numerous red herrings, all of which will almost certainly  lead nowhere
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #292 on: March 27, 2014, 04:12:33 PM »
I don't believe they have any intention of identifying Smithman as they don't want to go where he might lead.
They would rather devote their efforts towards numerous red herrings, all of which will almost certainly  lead nowhere
IMO Mr Redwood absolutely wants to identify smithman, innocent or not.
But the incomplete information presented may miss potential witnesses.
Like on SY's website the english text on the portuguese/dutch/german versions of the smithman efit-images[/b] should be translated into the relevant three languages, not left in english!
 

Offline jassi

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #293 on: March 27, 2014, 04:20:21 PM »
IMO Mr Redwood absolutely wants to identify smithman, innocent or not.
But the incomplete information presented may miss potential witnesses.
Like on SY's website the english text on the portuguese/dutch/german versions of the smithman efit-images[/b] should be translated into the relevant three languages, not left in english!
 

I swither to and fro regarding Redwood.
I feel he nailed his colours to the mast early on, so to speak, by referring to the McCanns as Kate & Gerry and saying that SY were only pursuing an abduction line.

Since then he has drawn back somewhat, so I'm now uncertain of his motives.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #294 on: March 27, 2014, 04:59:47 PM »
I swither to and fro regarding Redwood.
I feel he nailed his colours to the mast early on, so to speak, by referring to the McCanns as Kate & Gerry and saying that SY were only pursuing an abduction line.

Since then he has drawn back somewhat, so I'm now uncertain of his motives.
IMO the motive is unquestionable, to solve the case.
And IMO SY may be cleverer than anyone imagines.

Offline jassi

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #295 on: March 27, 2014, 05:02:44 PM »
IMO the motive is unquestionable, to solve the case.
And IMO SY may be cleverer than anyone imagines.

Well, yes, his future career depends on that, but will he arrive at the truth, or just some convenient, possibly dead, 'patsy' ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #296 on: March 30, 2014, 09:19:30 PM »
Well, yes, his future career depends on that, but will he arrive at the truth, or just some convenient, possibly dead, 'patsy' ?
IMO arriving is more likely, as he has already shown the important ability to adapt a theory to fit newly found information, as illustrated already by his first revelation.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 09:44:06 PM by pegasus »

Offline sadie

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #297 on: March 31, 2014, 01:55:01 AM »
Well, yes, his future career depends on that, but will he arrive at the truth, or just some convenient, possibly dead, 'patsy' ?

Not at all sure about that jassi.  Redwood must be near retirement age.  Police reitre at about 46, dont they?

Bet he is dead keen to solve it tho.  The biggest case in the World.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #298 on: March 31, 2014, 04:37:23 PM »
Mrs Smith felt the need to ask 'oh, is she asleep?'.
So there was obviously some doubt in her mind over the issue.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #299 on: March 31, 2014, 04:40:27 PM »
Mrs Smith felt the need to ask 'oh, is she asleep?'.
So there was obviously some doubt in her mind over the issue.

Excellent point why would she say that "Is she asleep?" Spooky!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.