Author Topic: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?  (Read 133466 times)

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Offline Brietta

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #435 on: May 18, 2014, 06:15:36 PM »
The statements in Portimao, and the visit by the PJ with the 3 witnesses and a camera to the sighting location, all happened on 26 May 2007.

That puts a different complexion it.

I had assumed that the statements were given individually, first and the visit to the scene at a later date when the three could ‘bounce off’ each other’s location.

If both happened on the same day there should have been no discrepancy – one should have dovetailed into the other – particularly as all three witnesses were able to collaborate both on the sighting and therefore on their statement. 

I do find that situation decidedly odd.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #436 on: May 18, 2014, 07:03:32 PM »
Definitely all on one day.

The imagined discrepancies are maybe due to readers misinterpreting ambiguous pronouns IMO.

I think it is natural that when an individual walks past 3 groups (each of several people) coming the other way, the individual will alter his course to walk around each group,

This common sense tactic is something one may observe every day in any town.

It does not indicate the man is a perp, it indicates only that he has the common sense to walk around each of the three groups of people coming the other way.

A challenge: can anyone here cite any other case anywhere ever which involved open carrying?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #437 on: May 18, 2014, 07:07:55 PM »
No a normal person carrying a child would stick to one pavement and walk down it. Not zig zagging from one side to the other so he can't be easily recognised and then not even responding to Mrs Smith asking Oh is she asleep? They should do a reconstruction with the Smiths.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2014, 07:11:13 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #438 on: May 18, 2014, 07:20:50 PM »
No a normal person carrying a child would stick to one pavement and walk down it. Not zig zagging from one side to the other so he can't be easily recognised and then not even responding to Mrs Smith asking Oh is she asleep? They should do a reconstruction with the Smiths.

You think having Morrissey there would help?

IMO it wasn't Smithmans 'girlfriend in a coma', he carried only 'half a person', she wasn't 'asleep'.

There was 'Panic', but he didn't just head 'nowhere fast'.

I'd check the 'cemetry gates'.
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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #439 on: May 18, 2014, 07:22:54 PM »
You think having Morrissey there would help?

IMO it wasn't Smithmans 'girlfriend in a coma', he carried only 'half a person', she wasn't 'asleep'.

There was 'Panic', but he didn't just head 'nowhere fast'.

I'd check the 'cemetry gates'.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #440 on: May 18, 2014, 07:24:03 PM »
No a normal person carrying a child would stick to one pavement and walk down it...
A normal person alters their course to avoid colliding with people coming the other way.
I never met anyone who just carries on regardless and ploughs into people, pregnant women, little kids, that would not be normal.




Offline Carana

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #441 on: May 18, 2014, 07:29:35 PM »
No a normal person carrying a child would stick to one pavement and walk down it. Not zig zagging from one side to the other so he can't be easily recognised and then not even responding to Mrs Smith asking Oh is she asleep? They should do a reconstruction with the Smiths.

The Smiths already went back for one in May 2007, and took the PJ over their route. Whether or not the PJ thought to have someone stand in to represent how the man actually walked or not isn't known, but it would have been a good opportunity while their memories were still fresh. 

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #442 on: May 18, 2014, 07:31:38 PM »
A normal person alters their course to avoid colliding with people coming the other way.
I never met anyone who just carries on regardless and ploughs into people, pregnant women, little kids, that would not be normal.

Nothing Team McCann has ever done could be classed as "normal".

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #443 on: May 18, 2014, 07:33:39 PM »
... not even responding to Mrs Smith asking Oh is she asleep? ...
But she spoke to him in a foreign language called "english".
If you were carrying your child home in your home town down a dark street and someone in a group of passing strangers shouted out something in some foreign language you didn't know, wouldn't you ignore them?

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #444 on: May 18, 2014, 07:37:41 PM »
But she spoke to him in a foreign language called "english".
If you were carrying your child home in your home town down a dark street and someone in a group of passing strangers shouted out something in some foreign language you didn't know, wouldn't you ignore them?

So we are still working on the Foreign Abductor theory?

Even though the entire population of PDL speaks good English?

A tourist town, where "locals" routinely ignore those who bring money to the coffers?

Right......

Martina

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #445 on: May 18, 2014, 07:38:46 PM »
Especially toting a forty pound dead weight.

Maddie was short for her age (90 cm) and was described as having a slim build. Forty pound is a lot for a four year old, she couldn't have been that heavy. Check the chart grows if you don't believe.

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #446 on: May 18, 2014, 07:40:50 PM »
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A challenge: can anyone here cite any other case anywhere ever which involved open carrying?
Well the results are pouring in, peeps have listed dozens of cases which are known to have involved open carrying.
Actually that's a lie. No-one has replied with a single case.

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #447 on: May 18, 2014, 07:42:01 PM »
So we are still working on the Foreign Abductor theory?

Even though the entire population of PDL speaks good English?

A tourist town, where "locals" routinely ignore those who bring money to the coffers?

Right......
When did you see me working on any abduction theory?
IMO the man the irish family saw is likely to be a local resident and totally innocent, just carrying his own daughter home.
To state that the entire population of PDL speaks English is untrue.
Not everyone there works in tourism BTW.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2014, 07:49:15 PM by pegasus »

Offline Brietta

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #448 on: May 18, 2014, 08:09:32 PM »
Definitely all on one day.

The imagined discrepancies are maybe due to readers misinterpreting ambiguous pronouns IMO.

I think it is natural that when an individual walks past 3 groups (each of several people) coming the other way, the individual will alter his course to walk around each group,

This common sense tactic is something one may observe every day in any town.

It does not indicate the man is a perp, it indicates only that he has the common sense to walk around each of the three groups of people coming the other way.

A challenge: can anyone here cite any other case anywhere ever which involved open carrying?

Recently Chloe Campbell was captured on CCTV being taken by a kidnapper who was walking on the street with her.

There have been a couple of instances in India where kidnappers have been captured on CCTV stealing children ~ one from beside her sleeping parents in a train station ~ the other in the street.  These children were carried away.

Toddler James Bulger was captured by CCTV being taken from the shopping mall.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #449 on: May 18, 2014, 08:28:03 PM »
Recently Chloe Campbell was captured on CCTV being taken by a kidnapper who was walking on the street with her.

There have been a couple of instances in India where kidnappers have been captured on CCTV stealing children ~ one from beside her sleeping parents in a train station ~ the other in the street.  These children were carried away.

Toddler James Bulger was captured by CCTV being taken from the shopping mall.

Several police forces, Private Investigators, millions of donated pounds, 7 years and how many tax payer dollars have yet to find ONE INDICATION of an abductor.

Not one.