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Offline Benice

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #555 on: June 02, 2014, 10:14:00 AM »
Yes he doesn't want to believe it is.

And your evidence for that is............................?   
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Victoria

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #556 on: June 02, 2014, 10:17:09 AM »
Yes he doesn't want to believe it is.

And how do you know that! Answer: you don't.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #557 on: June 02, 2014, 10:29:32 AM »
And how do you know that! Answer: you don't.


And you don't know if he changed his mind.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #558 on: June 02, 2014, 10:18:32 PM »
No-one explains their inconsistency why they accept the Rua Escola carrier exact identification but don't the similar and stronger Alvor carrier exact identification based on the same TV footage?
(Both those carrier identifications are mistaken IMO)

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #559 on: June 02, 2014, 10:43:40 PM »
No-one explains their inconsistency why they accept the Rua Escola carrier exact identification but don't the similar and stronger Alvor carrier exact identification based on the same TV footage?
(Both those carrier identifications are mistaken IMO)

Huh?

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #560 on: June 02, 2014, 11:48:19 PM »
Huh?
McClusky statement Sept 2007
"Another thing which has played on my mind is the coverage of Mr McCann walking off the aeroplane holding one of his young children. The way he was holding the child over his left shoulder reminded me of the man carrying the child from the white van"
 
« Last Edit: June 04, 2014, 03:55:38 AM by John »

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #561 on: June 06, 2014, 11:54:16 PM »
Silence.
Some peeps claim that identification, by how someone carries a child in TV airport footage, is reliable.
But when asked to comment on the Alvor identification, which was from the same TV footage, with supposed "100%" certainty, it goes all quiet.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #562 on: June 06, 2014, 11:59:59 PM »
Silence.
Some peeps claim that identification, by how someone carries a child in TV airport footage, is reliable.
But when asked to comment on the Alvor identification, which was from the same TV footage, with supposed "100%" certainty, it goes all quiet.

Perhaps if you linked the random bullshit, more people would know what you were going on about.

Offline Brietta

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #563 on: June 07, 2014, 09:53:11 AM »
Perhaps if you linked the random bullshit, more people would know what you were going on about.

This is the statement to which reference has been made … easy to find when using any search engine.

You will note the striking similarities between this amended statement and Mr Smith’s amended statement.

Two individuals ~ very anxious to help in the search for Madeleine ~ changing their statements for exactly the same reason ~ but both mistaken.

I too find it extraordinary that certain people accept one as gospel while ignoring the other entirely.


131 Additional statement of Richard McCluskey 2007.05.09 (English)
05-01-Apensos V, Vol 1, Pages 131
Table of Contents : APENSOS V, Volume I, Supposed Sightings and Locations (FILE 01)....(PDF Page 119)....Page 137?"Handwritten Richard McCluskey statement"
Page 137 (Page 1 of 1) (Copied and pasted from the Page 131 reference)
Statement made 12th September 2007

I am the above named person and I live at an address know to Police. In early May 2007 myself and my wife were on holiday in Portugal. I have already provided a witness statement in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

I would like to add the following;
The events of the past week or so, with the McCanns being very much in the news, have triggered my memory in relation to the incident.

In my original statement I described a distressed female who ran down a road towards a white van I had described.

Having viewed recent news footage of Mrs McCann I am now almost certain that she is the female I described as being in a distressed state. I say this because of her slight build, high cheekbones and her eyes and hairstyle.

I've agonised for days over whether or not to contact the police about this because it is a terrible thing to accuse somebody of. It had just not crossed my mind that the child?s parents could in some way be involved in her disappearance.

I have watched a good deal of news coverage about the McCanns over the past week or so.
Another thing which has played on my mind is the coverage of Mr McCann walking off the aeroplane holding one of his young children.
The way he was holding the child over his left shoulder reminded me of the man carrying the child from the white van in Portugal.
Although I could not describe the male I'd seen in Portugal because he had his back to me, it was the particular way Mr. McCann held the child that made me think.
He held the child over his left shoulder with his left arm supporting the child?s weight.
(signed).......R McCluskey
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RI_Mc.htm



"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #564 on: June 07, 2014, 11:50:50 PM »
Thanks Brietta. Common sense really, either the method is reliable, or it's not.
Those who say the identification method is 100% reliable when an Irish witness does it, but 100% unreliable when two English witnesses do it with higher certainty, are wishing to have their cake and eat it too. IMO.

Offline John

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #565 on: June 08, 2014, 05:16:07 AM »
Just to remind readers what the scene was like as Gerry and Kate descended the aircraft steps.

Analysis of the footage reveals that Gerry never once looked up...could this have been a factor in what was to become Mr Smith's eureka moment?

   
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 05:22:19 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #566 on: July 28, 2014, 11:56:44 AM »
It's obvious Smithman wasn't the abductor, surely, because his child was not wearing the short sleeved Eeyore Jammies which Madeleine, supposedly, went to bed in.

Strange then,  that SY are wasting precious time on that sighting given it definitely wasn't her, if the McCanns are to be believed.

Now, does Mr Redwood believe the abductor changed her pyjamas prior to the abduction?

Or perhaps, during the re-interview of the McCanns ,which we must accept has most definitely happened or else we are complete fools, they have suddenly remembered that she wasn't wearing that pair when she went to bed.

Ahh but no wait, Kate (book) was thinking Maddie would be out there getting cold in those short sleeved pyjamas, and thinking it would have been better if she was wearing a long sleeve pair.

So, pyjama changing abductor it is then.

How extraordinary!
« Last Edit: August 03, 2014, 04:00:04 AM by John »
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #567 on: July 30, 2014, 02:14:14 PM »
That Smith family sighting had been known for ages. It wasn't a big secret. Amaral was after him and too close to the truth.

We all know the McCanns knew who it was! Catch Tannerman not Smithman  @)(++(*

« Last Edit: August 03, 2014, 04:04:34 AM by John »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #568 on: July 30, 2014, 06:24:59 PM »
Smithman was obviously just an innocent Amish tourist (who happens to look a bit like Gerry) who was taking his Maddie lookalike daughter from the night creche & back to the rock they live under.

« Last Edit: August 03, 2014, 02:05:02 AM by John »
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Offline Brietta

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #569 on: July 30, 2014, 07:30:54 PM »
Smithman was obviously just an innocent Amish tourist (who happens to look a bit like Gerry) who was taking his Maddie lookalike daughter from the night creche & back to the rock they live under.

Wasn't even slightly amusing the first time I read it in one of your posts ... you really must get a new script writer, the old one is rubbish.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2014, 02:05:42 AM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....