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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #600 on: August 02, 2014, 07:00:58 PM »
quote"How do you know he bears more than a passing resemblance to Gerry if no one who actually saw him got a good look at his face"unquote

Someone must have seen him or else we would not have a photo-fit and NSY would not have placed it on crime watch....  the devil is in the detail! and it is also astonishing no one in PDL came forward to say they might know who he is.

However,

As I looked  upon the stair
I saw a man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again to day
I wish that man would go away
Poet, Hughes Mearns (1899)
(this is a different version but based on his poem).
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #601 on: August 02, 2014, 07:34:33 PM »
Anything in the files about whether the beach CCTV camera was checked?
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #602 on: August 02, 2014, 08:19:36 PM »
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/210032/Madeleine-McCann-Did-the-camera-hold-vital-clue

A child was missing. It's a small parish. Surely CCTV would have been an absolute priority in the hours after the disappearance - especially in an area so close to the OC. How many exterior CCTV cameras were there??
There was a photo of Amaral under the camera - I can't find the link to it now - but I do recall it was an elevated camera you could clearly see. One wonders why the ever-willing residents of Luz didn't prompt the PJ to check it.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2014, 04:33:15 AM by John »
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Offline misty

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #603 on: August 03, 2014, 10:52:20 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on August 02, 2014, 07:34:33 PM
Anything in the files about whether the beach CCTV camera was checked?

Why would a local who carried out such a "perfect" crime go anywhere near a CCTV?
There is very little in the files about the CCTV the PJ actually obtained for the period after Madeleine went missing and from the Paraiso beach restaurant only 3/5/2007   http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PARAISO.htm
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Offline Montclair

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #604 on: August 04, 2014, 08:17:32 AM »
CCTVs are not allowed in Portugal as they are a violation of people's right to privacy. AFAIK, the camera under which Gonçalo Amaral was photographed belonged to a business and is not supposed to be pointing out on the street.
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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #605 on: August 04, 2014, 09:20:06 AM »
Quote from: Montclair on August 04, 2014, 08:17:32 AM
CCTVs are not allowed in Portugal as they are a violation of people's right to privacy. AFAIK, the camera under which Gonçalo Amaral was photographed belonged to a business and is not supposed to be pointing out on the street.

You do talk some rubbish sometimes Montclair.

A 30 second serach throws up a lot of webcams such as this one

http://www.arrifana.eu/webcam/
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ferryman

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #606 on: August 04, 2014, 09:41:17 AM »
Quote from: Montclair on August 04, 2014, 08:17:32 AM
CCTVs are not allowed in Portugal as they are a violation of people's right to privacy. AFAIK, the camera under which Gonçalo Amaral was photographed belonged to a business and is not supposed to be pointing out on the street.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cctv-madeleine-mccann-snatcher-deleted-2467839
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stephen25000

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #607 on: August 04, 2014, 09:47:41 AM »
Quote from: ferryman on August 04, 2014, 09:41:17 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cctv-madeleine-mccann-snatcher-deleted-2467839

...and you've got to believe the 'mirror'.

The home of Tony 'sardine munchers' Parsons.

Perhaps it's readers should use that paper for another purpose.

IMO of course. 8)-)))

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Offline Brietta

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #608 on: August 04, 2014, 10:05:43 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on August 04, 2014, 09:47:41 AM
...and you've got to believe the 'mirror'.

The home of Tony 'sardine munchers' Parsons.

Perhaps it's readers should use that paper for another purpose.

IMO of course. 8)-)))

We've all seen the movie, obviously you must have forgotten what Dr Amaral was saying - here it is again - from the Express newspaper but with the imprimatur of the mccannfiles.

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Standing at an entrance to the waste ground, Mr Amaral said: "This area was thoroughly searched."

He walked a few steps and looked up at a CCTV camera and sighed loudly. The camera belongs to the Estrela da Luz resort hotel. "I believe that the person carrying a child in his arms was captured on film from that very camera," he said.

"I asked my officers to gather all the CCTV footage in Luz but, by the time they got to this hotel, the film from this camera had been wiped over. It was a mistake and I will always regret it. I do feel Madeleine was let down."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id346.html
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stephen25000

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #609 on: August 04, 2014, 10:08:49 AM »
Quote from: Brietta on August 04, 2014, 10:05:43 AM
We've all seen the movie, obviously you must have forgotten what Dr Amaral was saying - here it is again - from the Express newspaper but with the imprimatur of the mccannfiles.

 - snipped -

Standing at an entrance to the waste ground, Mr Amaral said: "This area was thoroughly searched."

He walked a few steps and looked up at a CCTV camera and sighed loudly. The camera belongs to the Estrela da Luz resort hotel. "I believe that the person carrying a child in his arms was captured on film from that very camera," he said.

"I asked my officers to gather all the CCTV footage in Luz but, by the time they got to this hotel, the film from this camera had been wiped over. It was a mistake and I will always regret it. I do feel Madeleine was let down."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id346.html


He was right about Madeleine being let down.....by her parents.

As to who took Madeleine's body out of the apartment remains another question.

IMO of course.
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ferryman

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #610 on: August 04, 2014, 10:38:00 AM »
Quote from: stephen25000 on August 04, 2014, 09:47:41 AM
...and you've got to believe the 'mirror'.

The home of Tony 'sardine munchers' Parsons.

Perhaps it's readers should use that paper for another purpose.

IMO of course. 8)-)))

Most sensible people would ally that with Jean-Pierre's post ...
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #611 on: August 04, 2014, 10:54:45 AM »
Quote from: Brietta on August 04, 2014, 10:05:43 AM
We've all seen the movie, obviously you must have forgotten what Dr Amaral was saying - here it is again - from the Express newspaper but with the imprimatur of the mccannfiles.

 - snipped -

Standing at an entrance to the waste ground, Mr Amaral said: "This area was thoroughly searched."

He walked a few steps and looked up at a CCTV camera and sighed loudly. The camera belongs to the Estrela da Luz resort hotel. "I believe that the person carrying a child in his arms was captured on film from that very camera," he said.

"I asked my officers to gather all the CCTV footage in Luz but, by the time they got to this hotel, the film from this camera had been wiped over. It was a mistake and I will always regret it. I do feel Madeleine was let down."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id346.html

Yes, a private CCTV from a hotel.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #612 on: August 04, 2014, 10:58:06 AM »
Quote from: Slartibartfast on August 04, 2014, 10:54:45 AM
Yes, a private CCTV from a hotel.

But it must have been pointed at the road.  Or are hotels allowed to do this while the local authorities are not?  This doesn't make sense.
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Offline jassi

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #613 on: August 04, 2014, 11:06:40 AM »
It might, if the purpose was ostensibly to monitor private property.  What might be not permitted is deliberate monitoring of public areas.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #614 on: August 04, 2014, 11:07:22 AM »






« Last Edit: August 04, 2014, 11:14:11 AM by pathfinder73 »
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.
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