Author Topic: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.  (Read 16736 times)

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AnneGuedes

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Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« on: March 01, 2014, 07:57:04 PM »
Coloboma is often associated with a cardiac disease.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2014, 03:19:06 PM by John »

Redblossom

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Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2014, 08:09:00 PM »
Coloboma is often associated with a cardiac disease.

Well of course, those  "procururing Madeleine" will have listed certain things, perhaps they didnt ask to look into her eyes though

As the parents did for ages  with their LOOK posters but then say well it wasnt noticeable really!


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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2014, 08:19:31 PM »
Coloboma is often associated with a cardiac disease.

Yes, unfortunately it is. Another worry for the McCanns if Madeleine is alive is the possible medical treatment she would need.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2014, 08:21:00 PM »
Yes, unfortunately it is. Another worry for the McCanns if Madeleine is alive is the possible medical treatment she would need.
Is there a treatment ?

Redblossom

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Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2014, 08:22:25 PM »
Yes, unfortunately it is. Another worry for the McCanns if Madeleine is alive is the possible medical treatment she would need.

If that were the case they would have blown the trumpet about it in every appeal! So obviously not a worry at all  for whatever reason!

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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2014, 08:25:06 PM »
Is there a treatment ?

I don't know about specific treatments .. people do take medication for heart conditions...

Better at least to be diagnosed and monitored than not.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2014, 08:27:20 PM »
If that were the case they would have blown the trumpet about it in every appeal! So obviously not a worry at all  for whatever reason!

 >@@(*&)

Hadn't thought of that, Red.

Nonetheless, there is a proven medical link between the two conditions, which the McCanns must have been aware of.

Perhaps after the LOOK confusion, they were advised not to use too many personal details in the campaign.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2014, 08:29:25 PM »
I don't know about specific treatments .. people do take medication for heart conditions...

Better at least to be diagnosed and monitored than not.
The PJ unfortunately wasn't allowed to Madeleine's data. Had she the possible heart fragility revealed by the coloboma ? Had this even been checked ?

AnneGuedes

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Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2014, 08:34:56 PM »
Hadn't thought of that, Red.

Nonetheless, there is a proven medical link between the two conditions, which the McCanns must have been aware of.

Perhaps after the LOOK confusion, they were advised not to use too many personal details in the campaign.
There's nothing personal in the cardiac disease. I think it's not very frequent. How can we know whether they were aware that she had it or not, without her medical data ?

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2014, 08:46:46 PM »
Coloboma is often associated with a cardiac disease.

Yes and Gerry's Crime watch description of Madeleine as "nearly perfect" does make me wonder if he viewed her as flawed.

What a flaw, if she had heart problems...the Cardiologist who couldn't fix his own daughter...


Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2014, 04:17:19 PM »
There's nothing personal in the cardiac disease. I think it's not very frequent. How can we know whether they were aware that she had it or not, without her medical data ?

They must have known that there was a risk, at least.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2014, 06:34:41 PM »
Coloboma is often associated with a cardiac disease.

well Dr Anne...could you tell us the incidence of heart disorders associated with coloboma seeing as you have stated "often"


Silkywhiskers

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Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2014, 03:29:48 AM »
There has to be a reason why her medical history was not supplied.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2014, 07:00:58 AM »
There has to be a reason why her medical history was not supplied.

of course there is...its called patient confidentality...
any information supplied to the Pj would have been all over the internet

Any request for patients records would need to be made via a court order requiring evidence...there wasnt any
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Silkywhiskers

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Re: Coloboma is often associated with cardiac disorders.
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2014, 07:38:57 AM »
of course there is...its called patient confidentality...
any information supplied to the Pj would have been all over the internet

Any request for patients records would need to be made via a court order requiring evidence...there wasnt any

Wikileaks tells us there was evidence, furthermore it was "developed" by the British in the first instance, which is why the British dogs with their British handler PC Grime were first brought in.

It has never been disclosed what that original evidence was, but presumably it still exists.