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AnneGuedes

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Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2014, 03:06:19 PM »
Who runs this association?
Just google and you'll find http://www.refugio.pt/sobre/

Offline VIXTE

Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2014, 11:06:57 PM »
Is this meant to be serious or facetious?



According to Amaral, Portuguese justice “works in silence” - the inference being it should be allowed to do so.


Then, why he is appearing on the talk shows and gives interviews?

icabodcrane

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Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2014, 11:20:02 PM »
To anyone claiming that the McCanns / Clarence Mitchell / Whoever it may be have some kind of hand in all the ludicrous tabloid articles that we have seen recently, the question has to be posed as to how such activity could possibly be of benefit to the McCanns or to any investigation.

Indeed almost the opposite is being revealed to be true - as if it weren't obvious through common sense already - namely that having the UK press effectively conducting their own parallel investigation is not only a distraction to the official investigation (s), but a hindrance.

These ludicrous tabloid articles invariably carry a quote from  'someone close'  to the McCanns   (  and frequently directly from Clarence Mitchell  )    ...  when was the last time an article closed with  "Spokesman for the McCanns declined to comment"  ? 

So yes,  I suspect the McCanns,   and those in their employ,  do  'have a hand'  in the ludicrous tabloid articles 

Why would they do that  ?   ...  well,  maybe to maintain the illusion that Scotland Yard are keeping them fully informed of operational matters   ...  an illusion that reinforces the principal  illusion   ( that Scotland Yard consider them to be  entirely innocent and are working  with  them in some sort of unprecedented  'partnership' )

Maybe

Redblossom

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Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2014, 11:29:41 PM »
  ...  when was the last time an article closed with  "Spokesman for the McCanns declined to comment"  ? 



When it seemed it was Leicester Police that screwed up!!


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/editors-picks/madeleine-mccann-bungling-police-prime-2965027

But you are right, the "mccanns spokesman" or a "close source to the family" has always stuck their oar in in recent months!


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icabodcrane

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Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2014, 11:33:57 PM »
When it seemed it was Leicester Police that screwed up!!


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/editors-picks/madeleine-mccann-bungling-police-prime-2965027

But you are right, the "mccanns spokesman" or a "close source to the family" has always stuck their oar in in recent months!


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Your encylopedic knowledge of this case is invaluable to the forum Red   

I should have aked you straight off ! 

Redblossom

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Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2014, 11:43:32 PM »
Your encylopedic knowledge of this case is invaluable to the forum Red   

I should have aked you straight off !
Bows! And many thanks

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Nah, just a good memory and google search

THere was ONE other time he declined  to comment, regarding Euclides, but thats it! AFAIAW


Portuguese police and a spokesman for the McCanns declined to comment on the newspaper report yesterday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2480161/Madeleine-McCann-investigations-main-suspect-died-4-years-ago.html

Redblossom

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Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2014, 12:01:05 AM »
Then, why he is appearing on the talk shows and gives interviews?

That was outwith the live investigation!! he never did any during it! The Mccanns and a couple of their friends did though, zzzz

Werent they lucky not to be charged for flagrant disregard hey?

nite nite
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Offline Luz

Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2014, 12:44:15 AM »
Who runs this association?

Luis Villas-Boas directs that association. The correct name is Refúgio Aboim Ascensão.

Offline Luz

Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2014, 12:46:17 AM »
When it seemed it was Leicester Police that screwed up!!


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/editors-picks/madeleine-mccann-bungling-police-prime-2965027

But you are right, the "mccanns spokesman" or a "close source to the family" has always stuck their oar in in recent months!


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How right you are!

Thanks for putting the dots on the is
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Offline Luz

Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2014, 12:52:27 AM »
Never did a portuguese serious journal or the highest rated rag used derogatory expressions to address the McCann or any British authority (police, diplomats & Government).

Unfortunately in UK, even the so-called serious newspapers used the most insulting expressions when addressing portuguese authorities.

Shame on you, so-called defenders of Human Rights.

If there is anything disgraced it is the Media in UK.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2014, 12:54:11 AM by Luz »

Offline John

Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2014, 06:23:14 AM »
I have no doubt that the PJ are seething at having SY on their patch reviewing their case.  If the shoe were on the other foot and the PJ were investigating the murder of the Portuguese national found battered in a Norwich car park then Norfolk Constabulary wouldn't be too happy.

I fear the longer this farce goes on the worse it will get!
« Last Edit: March 05, 2014, 06:30:45 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2014, 07:58:08 AM »
I have no doubt that the PJ are seething at having SY on their patch reviewing their case.  If the shoe were on the other foot and the PJ were investigating the murder of the Portuguese national found battered in a Norwich car park then Norfolk Constabulary wouldn't be too happy.

I fear the longer this farce goes on the worse it will get!

The UK police didn't seem to have a problem establishing a JIT in the Alps massacre though.

Offline Carana

Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2014, 08:06:57 AM »
Luis Villas-Boas directs that association. The correct name is Refúgio Aboim Ascensão.

Thanks (and to Anne who'd posted the link to their site).

In the last 10 years more than a dizaine of british children were recovered by social services and given for adoption.

I can imagine how a foreign child might be taken temporarily into care, but I don't see what circumstances could lead them to being adopted as opposed to being sent back to the UK, unless, perhaps, they had dual nationality or other family ties in the country.

Offline Benice

Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2014, 09:14:23 AM »
These ludicrous tabloid articles invariably carry a quote from  'someone close'  to the McCanns   (  and frequently directly from Clarence Mitchell  )    ...  when was the last time an article closed with  "Spokesman for the McCanns declined to comment"  ? 

So yes,  I suspect the McCanns,   and those in their employ,  do  'have a hand'  in the ludicrous tabloid articles 

Why would they do that  ?   ...  well,  maybe to maintain the illusion that Scotland Yard are keeping them fully informed of operational matters   ...  an illusion that reinforces the principal  illusion   ( that Scotland Yard consider them to be  entirely innocent and are working  with  them in some sort of unprecedented  'partnership' )

Maybe

IMO the whole idea that the McCanns are behind these newspapers articles is ludicrous.  What about the articles which emanate from the PT press - are they behind those too?

Most of the articles are nothing more than rehashed old stuff - worded differently -  and if the McCanns did want to make a comment - we would be seeing Clarence Mitchell's name in the articles  - not some unnamed  'source close to' or some anonymous 'spokesman' - who are invariably figments of some reporters imagination  - being used to milk the Madeleine McCann name down to the last tiny drop - because it's a money spinner.

IMO both SY and the McCanns will be increasingly concerned and frustrated that the press have ignored their requests for restraint as  they are in danger of destroying the good relationships they have tried so hard to buld up with the PT team.

IMO After all their efforts to get the case re-opened - to suggest the McCanns are actually now 'sabotaging' this via the press - is so far-fetched as to be completely off the credibility scale.  IOW it's just plain daft.

IIRC SY are keeping the McCanns updated anyway.



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Have the Press behaved honourably in the Madeleine case?
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2014, 09:18:40 AM »
IMO the whole idea that the McCanns are behind these newspapers articles is ludicrous.  What about the articles which emanate from the PT press - are they behind those too?

Most of the articles are nothing more than rehashed old stuff - worded differently -  and if the McCanns did want to make a comment - we would be seeing Clarence Mitchell's name in the articles  - not some unnamed  'source close to' or some anonymous 'spokesman' - who are invariably figments of some reporters imagination  - being used to milk the Madeleine McCann name down to the last tiny drop - because it's a money spinner.

IMO both SY and the McCanns will be increasingly concerned and frustrated that the press have ignored their requests for restraint as  they are in danger of destroying the good relationships they have tried so hard to buld up with the PT team.

IMO After all their efforts to get the case re-opened - to suggest the McCanns are actually now 'sabotaging' this via the press - is so far-fetched as to be completely off the credibility scale.  IOW it's just plain daft.

IIRC SY are keeping the McCanns updated anyway.

Good relationship ?

i.e. SY tell the PJ what to do  ?